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Cults, Culture & Coercion with Dr. Steve Hassan

The Much More Dangerous Case of Donald Trump with Dr. Bandy X. Lee, M.D., M.Div.

Cults, Culture & Coercion with Dr. Steve Hassan

Dr. Steven Hassan

Self-improvement, Society & Culture, Education

4.7843 Ratings

🗓️ 8 September 2025

⏱️ 63 minutes

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Summary

The attack on experts and science itself is part of the mind control strategy to control citizens. Before Trump came to power, the media would regularly call on me and top experts like Dr. Lee to shed light on issues concerning mental health and public health. This authoritarian control of information forces citizens concerned with the public good to do what we can to message. I have interviewed Dr. Lee previously, but as the world is now seeing what she and other experts predicted, I thought it was time to assess the current moment. Dr. Bandy X. Lee, M.D., M.Div., is a forensic psychiatrist and internationally recognized expert on dangerousness. She is the editor of the New York Times bestseller The Dangerous Case of Donald Trump: 27 Psychiatrists and Mental Health Experts Assess a President (2017). She followed up with The More Dangerous Case of Donald Trump: 40 Psychiatrists and Mental Health Experts Warn Anew (2024) and The Much More Dangerous Case of Donald Trump: 50 Psychiatrists and Mental Health Experts Warn Anew (2025). She has consistently been vocal on her views that President Donald Trump presents a Mental Health Emergency, which threatens our nation and the world. As it appears Trump’s health is failing and the Epstein file coverup continues, it seems clear that Putin and other puppetmasters are beginning to make plans for Vance to become President. But will he command the allegiance of sworn Maga devotees? I think this moment is critical to reach out to form, or reconnect with family and friends and warmly ask them their thoughts on current policies. Listen to this interview for more insights. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hello, I'm Dr. Stephen Hassan with another episode of my podcast called Conversations,

0:10.0

The Influence Continuum with Dr. Steve Hassan.

0:14.0

And I have a very special guest this week, Dr. Bandi X. Lee, forensic psychiatrist extraordinaire, a woman who I have

0:26.1

interviewed previously and known over the years of the Trump debacle experience. I'm just going to read

0:35.0

a little bit, Bandy, and then hold up a couple of the books and such.

0:38.8

You are a internationally recognized expert on violence who taught at the Yale School of Medicine

0:45.4

and Yale Law School from 2003 to 2020.

0:50.8

In addition to an authoritative textbook, you published over 100 peer-reviewed articles and chapters,

0:57.4

17 edited scholarly books and journal special issues, more than 300 op-eds and outlets such as

1:05.0

The Guardian, New York Times, Globe Independent Politico.

1:09.5

You've assembled professionals for the New York Times bestseller,

1:13.4

The Dangerous Case of Donald Trump,

1:15.4

37 psychiatrists and mental health experts assess a president.

1:21.2

And I have your first edition, which was 27.

1:25.5

This is the second edition, 37. and I had the honor of coming to the

1:30.3

National Press Club where you had a launch for the book, and I was privileged to speak. And I'll

1:38.1

add that you have a further addition with 50 people, the much more dangerous case of Donald Trump.

1:47.2

And I was honored to contribute something on the cult of Trump for that.

1:52.3

And you are the president of the World Mental Health Coalition, which I am a member of from its inception.

2:03.3

And all I can say is that, you know, experts have been dissed and have been absent from media

2:14.3

to educate our citizenry. And there was a whole censorship program.

2:22.0

And my understanding is the APA was misquoting

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