The MTCR and Its Possible Reforms

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🗓️ 16 August 2022

⏱️ 49 minutes

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Lawfare associate editor Matt Gluck sat down with Tom Karako, the director of the Missile Defense Project at the Center for Strategic and International Studies, and Kolja Brockmann, a researcher with the Dual-Use and Arms Trade Control Programme at the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute, to discuss the Missile Technology Control Regime, an international agreement that seeks to prevent the harmful proliferation of certain missiles and missile technology. They spoke about the origins of the agreement, the challenges it has faced, and potential avenues for productive reform. Is the agreement still useful, or have technological advances and developments in other areas over the last few decades left it outdated?

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1:08.6	We have the Vassana arrangement for exports of conventional military systems and that
1:12.9	also covers UAVs.
1:14.9	So that is something which is already there.
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1:24.5	the US perspective has been then seen as self-restricting.
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