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Rational Security

The “Ms. Jackson, if You’re Nastya” Edition

Rational Security

The Lawfare Institute

Foreignpolicy, Nationalsecurity, News, Government, Politics, Middleeast

4.82K Ratings

🗓️ 19 September 2024

⏱️ 76 minutes

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Summary

This week, Scott sat down with Lawfare team members Alan Rozenshtein, Tyler McBrien, and RatSec newbie Anastasiia "Nastya" Lapatina to talk through the week's national security headlines, including:

  • “A Shot Across the Rubicon.” Reports indicate that President Biden and his U.K. allies may be on the verge of giving Ukraine approval to use their advanced weapons systems to strike deep into Russia, despite Russian President Vladimir Putin’s threat that doing so would be seen as an act of war. How risky a move is this? 
  • “TikTok on the DokKit.” Challengers of the federal law that would ban TikTok had their (first) day in court on Tuesday in oral arguments before the D.C. Circuit. How were their criticisms received by the three-judge panel? And what will the implications of their ruling be for the law, and for TikTok more generally?
  • “Dialing M.” Thousands of Lebanese—many of them members of the terrorist group and political movement Hezbollah—were killed or injured this week, when their pagers detonated in what many suspect was a complex terrorism operation by Israel. While some are proclaiming this to be the most accurate counter-terrorism operation in history, others are saying it was indiscriminate in its disregard for possible civilian loss of life. What should we make of this operation? And what impact will it have on the broader Israeli-Palestinian conflict?

For object lessons, Alan endorsed the new Vince Vaughn series Bad Monkey for finally giving the nice guy a shot. Tyler recommended the album "Manning Fireworks" by MJ Lenderman (as recently profiled in The New Yorker). Scott doubled-down on a prior Alan recommendation by encouraging folks to check out sci-fi author Ray Nayler's latest book, "The Tusks of Extinction," and the exceptional collection of short stories he's published online. And Nastya urged listeners to check out Serhii Plohky's new book, "The Russo-Ukrainian War: The Return of History."



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Yeah I'm actually I'm actually curious, right? Like, like, like, like, like, like, if you were 23 in America and had a child, you would basically be, that would basically be a teenage pregnancy, like, I mean, unless you're in the South. Yeah but like

0:44.4

in Ukraine is this like pretty normal like like like educated working you know women in

0:49.6

their early 20s? No No, so like working and trying to have like a fancy career and having

0:56.7

having it all. In a way, yeah, I'm really lucky but no, no, no, I mean, yeah, most women. I'm just very lucky because I can do my

1:04.9

job like on my computer that I can afford to have child care like I'm lucky in like a

1:10.1

hundred different senses but but people do tend to have children earlier here.

1:16.1

Though it's now moving again in like the more 30 plus direction because feminism is the thing here as well so everyone is on there I don't need men

1:26.0

beat so I'm with them I about it and that's why me Scott and Allen are about to leave the podcast.

1:34.0

Yeah, that's it.

1:35.0

Yeah, it's just a surprise.

1:37.0

You'll let you run with it.

1:38.0

I'll just talk about motherhood for like two hours.

1:41.0

That's fine.

1:42.0

I would listen to that shit I would oh my

1:44.6

God I would listen to an hour podcast of you know young young mother in Ukraine

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