Hello and welcome to the Work for Change podcast it's your host Jean and your other

host John with the Silent Age.

Welcome, I'm gonna keep saying, I don't care.

Welcome to episode 102 of the Work for Change podcast.

Today we have my friend and also my personal physical therapist

CJ or the movement doctor back on.

This is the second time.

First time was Jean actually on because me and CJ just had to talk.

But you said a little one on one last time.

Yep. It was good we talked about we talked a lot about back pain because that's

something we're dealing with but just pain in general and dealing with injury

and dealing with pain while training.

I think a lot of this, like obviously it was nice to be able to talk about it because both

of us are struggling with this, but I think it'll be interesting for a lot of people

that might be struggling with pain in their own regard.

You know what I mean? Yeah, he really like talked about just like the

common misconception of, oh I'm in pain, therefore I need to avoid using this muscle.

Yeah. Or this whatever. And then what happens is you don't use this thing

for you know 10 days and then you decide to use it again you're like oh no it's sore I did

it wrong and then you wait 20 days and then you try to do it in a store and you wait a month, you know, and then that cycle perpetuates and then you're just always in pain because you're not allowing your body to actually build up the processes to stay strong.

So way, way deeper and so much more in the conversation but that was just part of it.

Obviously, yeah, we talked for a while about it all.

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