Hi, guys. Welcome back to Preview Alliance podcast. This is Sarah and I'm so excited today. One of my

favorite authors, she's a physician, she's a mom, she's a therapist for new moms, is on our podcast. So I am so excited to introduce you to Dr. Jill. And I'm going to murder her last name. Again, I told her prior, Zachary, Zachary. Yeah. That's it. Okay. Okay. I told her, I said, I going to spiral and say it wrong, which our listeners know,

you know, I'm very open about it. So, hey, welcome, Jill, to the preview lines podcast.

Thank you very much for having me today here, Sarah. I really appreciate being on. I love your

podcast. Thank you so much. Now, I know you well, but please just give our listeners a little intro about you

so that they can understand what greatness we're fixing to encounter with you here.

Okay. Well, I am a perinatal mental health physician. So I started out as a family doctor

and then switched careers after having my kids and became

a therapist as well.

And I have just been working with moms transitioning from pre-baby to with baby for the past

15 years.

And I'm also author of Motherhood Survival Manual, your prenatal

guide to prevent postpartum depression and anxiety. And that was published last year. And we'll

just wave it as that. Perfect. Well, you have all these hats, right?

So was there a moment or an experience that kind of made you say, okay, we're failing moms, right?

They are failing.

We need to prevent this instead and talk to us kind of how that model switch, right?

Because I feel like we're really kind of a reactionary society, not a preventative society.

But you're on the forefront of preventing this, which we love and talk about all the time.

Well, it was kind of a process for me.

So initially, it was something I was really concerned that I would get postpartum depression. My mom had it

with both me and my brother, and I had had depression as a child, and we moved from the

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