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The Most Powerful People You’ve Never Heard Of (Update)

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🗓️ 4 March 2026

⏱️ 66 minutes

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Summary

Just beneath the surface of the global economy, there is a hidden layer of dealmakers for whom war, chaos, and sanctions can be a great business opportunity. In this updated episode from 2025, journalists Javier Blas and Jack Farchy help us shine a light on the shadowy realm of commodity traders.

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0:00.0

Hey there, it's Stephen Dubner, and we are slipping into your feed with this bonus episode.

0:07.5

It is an update of an episode we made last year about commodity traders, and it suddenly feels even more relevant now.

0:13.9

The war in Iran has already scrambled the global oil markets.

0:18.1

In January, after U.S. forces captured Venezuelan President Nicholas Maduro,

0:23.3

President Trump immediately moved to take control of the Venezuelan oil economy. Among the industry

0:28.9

leaders he invited to the White House were senior executives from two major commodity traders,

0:33.8

Vital and Traficiora. And it's not just oil. American soybeans and rare earth metals

0:39.4

have become bargaining chips in the ongoing trade war with China. And behind just about every

0:44.5

headline is a commodity trade. That's what this episode is about. We have updated facts and

0:49.9

figures when necessary. As always, thanks for listening.

1:03.7

For the past couple of years, I've been letting a very good book collect dust on my shelf.

1:09.2

A friend had told me about the book, and I did read the introduction, a wild introduction, about the CEO of a British company who flies his private jet

1:13.7

into the middle of the Libyan Civil War to make an oil deal with the rebel army,

1:19.7

an army which happened to have the covert support of the governments of Britain, Qatar,

1:24.1

and the U.S. So, yeah, I probably should have kept reading, but I had 30 other

1:30.2

books I wanted to take a look at. A dirty little secret about me, there are a lot of books

1:35.5

where I read only the introduction or a couple chapters, even books I like. This may strike

1:40.8

some people as a wasteful practice, but I recommend it. Anyway, as fascinating as I found that introduction about the oil trader in Libya,

1:50.0

the book didn't seem relevant at that moment, but last year, as the U.S. was signing a mineral deal with Ukraine,

1:58.0

and Donald Trump was expressing his appetite for the natural resources in

2:01.9

Greenland, in Canada, even at the bottom of the ocean. And, of course, in the middle of an on-again,

2:07.5

off-again trade war with China, the book started to seem very relevant. It's called The World

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