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Why It Matters

"The Most Persistent and Lethal Threat"

Why It Matters

Council on Foreign Relations

News

4.2876 Ratings

🗓️ 4 February 2021

⏱️ 34 minutes

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Summary

For years, security experts have warned that white nationalist and white supremacist extremism represent the most significant domestic terrorism threat to the United States. Now, in the wake of the attack on the U.S. Capitol, the country seems to be gaining clarity about the seriousness of the situation for the first time. How did we get here, and what can be done?   Featured Guests:  Bruce Hoffman (Shelby Cullom and Kathryn W. Davis Senior Fellow for Counterterrorism and Homeland Security)  Cynthia Miller-Idriss (Professor, School of Public Affairs and School of Education, American University)   For an episode transcript and show notes, visit us at cfr.org/podcasts/most-persistent-and-lethal-threat

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Foreigners coming to America to kill Americans, we immediately condemn and we see it as offensive, wrong, illegal, and we've waged 20 year war on terrorism against this kind of threat.

0:13.8

Somehow when it occurs in the United States,

0:16.2

it's something we ignore, we don't want to come to grips with.

0:19.5

And in part, that's because of the constitutional freedoms freedom of expression freedom of assembly

0:25.1

but we have to understand too that words matter and that words can be weaponized and as we've seen

0:30.6

unfortunately in the digital era be very quickly and easily transformed into want and outright violence.

0:37.0

Last month on a bright day in the Capitol, President Biden used a phrase that no

0:47.6

previous president had used in an inaugural address, white supremacy.

0:52.4

A rise of political extremism. address, white supremacy.

0:52.6

A rise of political extremism, white supremacy, domestic terrorism.

0:57.4

His words were delivered in the very spot where just one week earlier a mob of insurrectionists stormed the capital at the behest of

1:05.6

President Donald Trump. The riot was not exclusively a white supremacist event

1:10.4

but it did bring together extremists from a wide array of white nationalist

1:15.6

and white supremacist groups, many openly carrying flags and symbols in support of

1:21.1

their movements.

1:22.6

One of the most haunting images of that day

1:24.8

was that of the Confederate flag being lofted

1:27.7

in the halls of the Capitol building.

1:30.1

For years, the United States

1:31.6

has devoted enormous resources to fighting transnational terrorism.

1:36.2

But until now, the threat of homegrown white supremacist terror

1:40.9

has not received the same focus.

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