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The Conversation with Dasha Burns

The most important person you don't know

The Conversation with Dasha Burns

POLITICO

Politics, News, Government

4.01.6K Ratings

🗓️ 26 February 2021

⏱️ 22 minutes

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Summary

On today's episode, everything you want to know about the mysterious but powerful Senate Parliamentarian. Elizabeth MacDonough ruled Thursday that Senate Democrats would be deemed out of order if they include a $15 minimum wage in their coronavirus relief package. Congress editor Elana Schor and congressional budget reporter Caitlin Emma talk to host Scott Bland about the Senate's referee and this blow to the progressive agenda. Scott Bland is a politics editor at POLITICO.Elana Schor is a congress editor at POLITICO.Caitlin Emma is a congressional budget reporter at POLITICO.Annie Rees is a producer for POLITICO audio.Jenny Ament is senior producer for POLITICO audio.Irene Noguchi is the executive producer of POLITICO audio. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

The really interesting thing about influential and powerful staffers like the Parliamentarian

0:04.7

is reporters can't source with these folks.

0:07.3

That's a lot of shore.

0:08.8

Congressional editor at Politico.

0:10.4

She's covered Congress for years, and she's never met Elizabeth McDonough face-to-face.

0:15.8

Reporters are constantly reaching out to both parties to find out about their meetings

0:19.3

with someone like Elizabeth McDonough.

0:23.3

Because it's just not in the Parliamentarian's job description or blood to go near the press.

0:27.7

And that's kind of how it should be, frankly, but it just enhances her power if anything.

0:34.4

I'm Scott Blan, and this is Nerdcast.

0:37.5

So today, news. Congressional budget reporter Caitlin Emma has been watching

0:41.9

and waiting, and waiting, not fun, to see how the Parliamentarian ruled.

0:47.1

Caitlin, in 10 seconds, can you tell me what went down on Thursday or really what didn't?

0:53.0

So the Parliamentarian in a big blow to Democrats said that the minimum wage hike is going

0:58.5

to violate these arcane budget rules, sort of known as the bird rule, and that could jeopardize

1:05.6

the rest of President Joe Biden's coronavirus relief package if they leave it in.

1:10.2

And so today, we're looking not just at the Parliamentarian's ruling and what it means for

1:14.6

the future of the COVID relief package, but also what we're doing here and how we got here in the

1:19.5

first place. So when we think of Congress, we think of the members of Congress, the actual

1:26.4

elected officials voting and making speeches. But there's also this massive behind-the-scenes

1:35.1

machinery of rules and staffers and all sorts of other things that make this big branch of

1:42.7

government work. And right at the center of that is this position that's part human

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