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The Fr. Mike Schmitz Catholic Podcast

The Most Important Part of Any Conversation

The Fr. Mike Schmitz Catholic Podcast

Ascension

Religion & Spirituality, Society & Culture, Christianity

4.97.7K Ratings

🗓️ 17 December 2020

⏱️ 6 minutes

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Summary

It’s those last five minutes of conversation with someone that makes them feel like a number or like a known and loved individual. We’ve all had conversations that makes us feel like the other person doesn’t really care to be talking to us. But we’ve also had conversations that stick with us because the person we talked to made us feel so loved that we can’t help but be uplifted by them.

This is what those last five minutes are all about: making the other person feel wanted, known, and loved. This is true of any relationship; even our relationship with God, in prayer. How are we spending those last five minutes of prayer? Are we letting our minds drift to other things, or are we giving God our full attention?

Jesus gave so much during his time on Earth. Just as he continually gave his time to those around him, we are called to do the same. Use the last five minutes with anyone you’re talking to—including God—to show them what they mean to you and to make them feel worth paying attention to.

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0:00.0

I need to shave. But not today. I'll shave tomorrow. In case you're wondering what the schedule for shaving is, tomorrow is the answer to that question.

0:19.2

How many names found the mic? And this is a censorship presence. One of the things that I am often accused of, because it's true, is I'm often late.

0:27.2

I'm often late for the next meeting. I'm not usually late for the first meeting. I'm often late for the next meeting.

0:33.5

One of the reasons why I'm late for the next meeting is because a way I set up my, like the space that I'm in when I meet with people, the clock is behind me.

0:40.4

And I feel really guilty about like turning around and looking at the clock, because that's a clear sign that, hey, time's up. Also, I don't have a watch.

0:46.2

It's a band that goes around my wrist. Anyways, the second reason is because I am absolutely convinced that

0:53.2

the last five minutes of any conversation are almost always the most important five minutes.

1:01.0

Let's back up a little bit. I was reading the gospel the other day. And it was the story of Jesus, because it's the gospel of Jesus, healing the blind and the lame, the deaf and the mute.

1:15.0

For three days, it says that there were them for three days and he just continued to heal. He continued to pour himself out.

1:21.6

And at the end of this, all these three days, it says, Jesus said, I do not want to send them away hungry for fear that they may faint along the way.

1:30.1

But I was just thinking about like how powerful this is, like how remarkable this is that here is Jesus after three days of giving and giving and giving.

1:37.8

Even at the end, he's like, no, no, we need to give more. We need to give to the end. Because why? Because how Jesus looks at people, he sees people not projects.

1:47.4

Right? So a lot of times in church world, a lot of times in ministry world, sometimes people can feel like numbers, not actual names.

1:54.8

And sometimes, especially when dealing with people's issues, their weaknesses, their wounds, they can feel like a wound rather than someone who is worth loving.

2:04.4

And Jesus, after three days of giving and giving and giving, that last piece, where he's like, let's give them food for the journey home, is kind of a sign of this.

2:15.9

The last five minutes. And so for our lives, right? A lot of times when I'm meeting with somebody or any kind of conversation,

2:22.1

I recognize that it's that last five minutes, or whatever, you know, percentage of the meeting time, it's that last moment, that last time,

2:29.8

or either someone walks away feeling like a number or they walk away feeling like, no, he knows my name.

2:36.3

When someone walks away from you, they either maybe walk away feeling like a project, or they have, no, I feel like a person who matters.

2:42.8

Because it's how we treat people the whole time, obviously. But I haven't had this happen too many times, too many times in my life, where like, you know, I, here's an hour, here's two hours, here's a long time with this person in this conversation, giving them every note of my attention.

2:56.8

And then at the end saying like, okay, I'm kind of out of patience or I'm kind of out of time, I'm kind of out of whatever the thing is and I have to go.

3:02.8

And then feeling like, oh, I was a project, oh, I was just a number, I was just a wound as opposed to a person and a name and someone who is loved by God.

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