Hey, I'm Candace Lim. And I'm Shana Roth, and you're listening to I see why am I.

In case you missed it. Slate's podcast about internet culture.

And Shana, you are a senior producer here at Slate.

You work on a lot of shows like What Next TBD, Political Gap Fest.

But I wanted you on the show today because you are also a true crime author.

Candace, things are out of control in Ohio, my neighbor to the south.

And as someone from Michigan, I have to say, Ohio regularly haunts me.

But how much does Ohio haunt you?

Constantly.

It taunts me in a way that I do not love, but I weirdly feel kinship with. Speaking of kinship, it is October, which means spooky season. Probably my third favorite holiday of the year. Halloween is coming up. Are you a Halloween person?

Okay. My birthday is October 30th. Please send gifts. So I've always been a Halloween person. Okay. My birthday is October 30th. Please send gifts. So I've always been a

Halloween person. I believed it was my holiday. And growing up, I always made my friends wear

costumes to my birthday party. And as I got older, my birthday parties turned into classic scary

movie nights slash taking trips to haunted houses.

So, yeah, me and Halloween were close. I think that's really cute. What was like your best or

favorite Halloween costume you've ever worn? I've had so many. I was Dorothy, a pirate, a witch,

Sarah Palin's daughter, my friend was Sarah Palin.

The list goes on. But honestly, my favorite was the year I dressed up as a mailman because my dad is a

male man. Well, he's retired. And I stole some of his work clothes. And when he got home from work,

he was so happy. We have this great picture of us together, all dressed up like male people. It was,

it was delightful. That's so cute. I love that. What about you? For me, I would say my best was

probably, I dressed up as the Arthur Fist meme in college. I had like a mustard yellow sweater,

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