Hey, I'm Candace Lim, and you're listening to Icy YMI.

In case you missed it, Slate's podcast about internet culture.

And joining me on the show today is someone you may know from their very funny Twitter account,

Kathy Lee and Hoda, no context.

Please welcome to the show, Caleb Stark.

Hello, Caleb.

Hi, how you doing?

So, so good.

Because today, Caleb, we are here to honor our queen, Hoda Kotbe, who did recently announce

she was leaving her anchor spot at the Today Show. So today we're going to talk about her best

moments, why she's kind of like a perfect internet celebrity. But first, I have a big

question to ask you. Caleb, you are a first-time guest on the show.

Therefore, I must ask the question.

What was your first internet memory?

Well, my first internet memory does involve dial-up internet because I'm getting to be

out of the age where I was using that as a kid.

Honestly, I remember where I was when I first learned how to use Napster,

even as like a, you know, eight-year-old child waiting for hours and hours for

songs to download to listen to for the first time.

I even remember being able to preview the song as it downloaded.

So like listening to the first five seconds of the song and then listening to the first seven seconds of the song and then the first 10 for like,

you know, however long it takes to download a mp3 file on dial-up internet. Other than that,

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