The Most Dangerous Part of America’s Healthcare System Isn’t What You Think with Tom Mueller

What Now? with Trevor Noah

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News, Comedy, Society & Culture

4.7 • 2.9K Ratings

🗓️ 27 November 2025

⏱️ 97 minutes

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Trevor, Eugene, and author Tom Mueller examine how corruption, greed, structural failures, and declining public trust in the American healthcare system have shaped patient care — and whether meaningful reform is still within reach.

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0:00.0	The story of dialysis is an amazing case study of good intentions being thwarted by bad incentives, poor oversight, and profiteering.
0:07.9	When I was working at the Vita, the priorities was to get them on dialysis and get the next patient on as soon as possible.
0:14.8	It was all about numbers.
0:16.0	Tom Mueller is the author of How to Make a Killing, an investigation of the dialysis industry.
0:22.6	In America, patients on dialysis die one to two times faster than in any other developed
0:27.3	country.
0:32.9	This is What Now with Trevor Noah.
0:38.3	This episode is presented by Whole Foods Market.
0:41.2	Eat well for less.
0:46.5	I've never known you without glasses now that I realize it.
0:53.4	You actually have. When? Half of our relationship was without classes. What? Take off your classes? Remember this guy? No, actually, yeah, no, you're right. You're right, actually. Yeah, yeah, the beard, now it's like a flip. Yeah, it was no beard, more hair, no classes. It's like I've known every version of you.
1:11.5	Do you know this guy?
1:13.2	Eugene, where are you?
1:15.1	I'm here.
1:16.2	Oh, Eugene, you're back.
1:17.6	I think someone else in his glasses.
1:22.3	I'm just saying.
1:23.6	Welcome to our idiot friendship, Tom.
1:26.1	I'm so sorry.
1:27.7	Thank you very much.
1:28.9	Eugene, I feel like I fit right in.
1:30.6	You do, actually. You do. If you want to, you do, man. You do indeed.
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