The most confusing celebrity marriage ever

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Shameless Media

Society & Culture

4.7 • 1.3K Ratings

🗓️ 11 May 2025

⏱️ 50 minutes

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Heya!!! On today’s show, they’re one of the most inscrutable celebrity couples – or non-couples – ever, no matter how much they keep publicly sharing about their relationship. Yep, it’s Will Smith and Jada Pinkett Smith. We’re unpacking their unique relationship arrangement and how that Oscars slap really came to pass. Just a content note up top, there’s a brief mention of child abuse and addiction in this episode. Please take care while listening. This episode of Shameless is brought to you by Woolworths. Shop online and get your fresh groceries delivered direct to your boot. Today’s episode was produced by Eilish Gilligan. Want to support our show? Clicking ‘follow’ on Apple and Spotify is the best way to do that, and we're super grateful to anyone who leaves a five-star review while they're at it. Also! An old-fashioned 'Tell a Friend In Real Life' is equally appreciated. Want more? We've got more… Subscribe to the Shameless newsletter, Smart Dumb Stuff: http://eepurl.com/iH2sV-/ Aaaand everything else your heart could ever desire is here: https://linktr.ee/shamelesspodcast Thanks for listening! We are very big fans of yours.

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0:00.0	This episode of Shameless Media
0:05.6	This episode of Shameless is brought to you by Woolworths.
0:10.0	Shop online and get your fresh groceries delivered direct to your boot. Hello and welcome to Shameless, the pop culture podcast for smart people who love dumb stuff.
0:44.5	You're joined, as always, by Melbourne writers, Michelle Andrews and Zara McDonald.
0:48.4	Hello, Zara McDonald and hello, producer, Eilish Gilligan.
0:51.1	Hi.
0:51.8	Hi, coming up on today's show, they're one of the most inscrutable celebrity couples or non-couples ever,
0:57.6	no matter how much they keep publicly sharing their relationship.
1:00.9	Yep, it's Will Smith and Jada Pinkett Smith.
1:03.3	We are unpacking their unique relationship arrangement, to say the least,
1:07.3	and how the Oscars Slap really came to pass today.
1:10.4	Oh, I'm ready. There's a lot going on
1:12.6	in this episode. Happy Monday, everyone. Happy, happy, happy Monday. Can't think of a better way I want to
1:19.6	spend it with you all. I have to say, I kind of thought I knew all there was to this story,
1:25.4	right? And yet, when I was reading through your notes, Gill,
1:29.2	I was like, there is a lot here. Yeah, I think this is such a sugary, interesting, weird story
1:34.3	that even if you feel like you know so much of it, there's just so much value to still suck
1:39.8	from the, I was going to suck from the teeth. Suck from the teeth.
1:44.6	Sure.
1:47.2	How did you feel researching it, Gill?
1:52.2	Oh, it's actually so interesting because I was trying to figure out how I feel about it after spending like three days looking into it.
1:54.3	And I actually feel like I'm more confused than I was before.
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