Hi, I'm Yonite Levy of Channel 12 in Tel Aviv.

And I'm Jonathan Friedland of The Guardian in London.

And we are unholy, two Jews and the News from Keshet Podcasts. Hi, Jonathan.

Hello, you're neat. It's very lucky that we are able to be in contact, that we have not had an

outage on our on our recording connection here. And we don't have to do this episode via

career pigeons. We'd have had to do that. That would have been very, that would have been tricky.

I myself am not, I confess, an active Facebook or Instagram user, but I do rather rely on WhatsApp

and I think, well, truth is we do a bit, don't we, when we're talking about the podcast

in the days leading up to. That was a British a bit, by the way.

We do, yeah, we do a lot.

And so it did feel suddenly, isn't it weird?

Because you get so used to technology that suddenly sending an ordinary text felt as if I was

writing on parchment and, you know, with a quill and attaching it to, like you said,

like a carrier pigeon. The amazing thing is, by the way, that you said, as you said, you don't have

Facebook or Instagram, but we do, the program does, two Jews, and you couldn't for a few

hours upload pictures of your, I don't know, fancy kosher shepherd pie.

So that was the world missed that.

You know, one thing that I have to say about this,

I'm going to sound really terribly, you know, a technophobe.

You know that about me.

And I found this whole story a little bit reassuring, actually,

because the fact that it was only resolved when the engineers could physically break in to where the servers were

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