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This is the Tom Hartman program.

And welcome back on the line with us is the senior scholar at the Institute for Policy Studies,

one of the really truly great progressive think tanks out there, a director of the

Institute for Policy Studies program on any quality in the common good and the co-editor

of anyquality.org, the author of the new book The Wealth Horters, Chuck Collins, and Chuck,

welcome back to the program. It's been a while since we've talked. These papers, these being coined

the Pandora papers. This is pretty shocking stuff for people who haven't been following what's

going on with the Pandora papers. You want to start at the beginning and tell us what is going on,

how this all came out and what they tell us about the world's financial system and the morbidly rich.

Yeah, well the Pandora papers are a result of a leak and people may remember five and a half

years ago, there was something called the Panama papers, which was a leak out of one law firm

in Panama that created all kinds of shell companies that the super rich used to sort of

hide their money. Well, the Pandora papers is a massive leak from 14 different kind of wealth

service firms from around the world and it names names. There's 360 major politicians from different

countries. It shows the sort of how the systems work, how the super rich kind of play shell games

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