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Moral Maze

The Morality of the British Empire

Moral Maze

BBC

Society & Culture, Religion & Spirituality

4.4623 Ratings

🗓️ 22 July 2020

⏱️ 43 minutes

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Summary

Campaigners are calling for an 'empire-neutral' public honour to reward front-line coronavirus workers in the Queen’s birthday honours list this autumn. It’s thought that some nominees will refuse to accept the traditional Order of the British Empire (OBE). The Black Lives Matter protests have sharpened the debate about our colonial past. Oxford professor Nigel Biggar has suggested that academics now put their careers at risk if they say anything positive about the British Empire. It’s an important moment for education, but the issue has become toxic. There’s general agreement that most British citizens have for too long been ignorant of the dark and shameful parts of their history. But was the Empire, as many passionately contest, predominantly a system of racism, slavery and exploitation? Other historians - while not disputing the violence and cruelty that disfigured the imperial project - point to the advances in health, education, the rule of law and economic prosperity that it brought to many parts of the world. How should we weigh up the transgressions and the triumphs of the past? Is it helpful to mark the Empire on a moral balance sheet with ‘shame’ and ‘pride’ columns? Does the obsession with viewing Britain’s history as either glorious or heinous stoke present-day hostility between identity groups? Or, since many British citizens are children of empire and their ancestry is woven into our collective tapestry, should we all focus instead on learning more about our shared past, warts and all? With Professor Nigel Biggar, Dr Nadine El-Enany, Janan Ganesh and Professor Alan Lester.

Producer: Dan Tierney.

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0:07.7

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Good evening. When I was born, the British Empire was the greatest the world had ever known.

0:17.4

It governed a quarter of the world's population and with its command of the seas

0:21.1

had controlled three quarters of the surface of the globe. By the time I left school, it was either

0:26.3

gone or in headlong retreat and much of my career at the BBC was spent reporting the

0:30.8

consequences of its aftermath. The progressive view, sharpened this summer by the Black Lives Matter

0:36.4

campaign, is that it was

0:37.9

essentially about racism, slavery and exploitation.

0:41.6

Academics who find positive aspects to our imperial history are vilified and say their careers

0:46.5

are at risk.

0:47.7

There's talk some people nominated for the Queen's birthday honours will refuse them because

0:51.9

they're still conferred in the name of the empire.

0:54.6

Yet there are many who, while acknowledging its faults and darker episodes,

0:58.7

maintained the Empire, globalised trade, brought the rule of law, education, prosperity, modernity

1:04.6

to the furthest corners of the world.

1:07.6

Should we be ashamed or proud of our past?

1:10.4

Should we acknowledge and examine it as the key to the

1:13.2

present and the future? Or is the current obsession with it stoking ideas of victimhood, identity

1:19.4

politics, even reawakening the racism it sets out to deplore? That's our moral maize tonight.

1:25.2

The panel, Mona Siddiqui, Professor of Islamic and Inter-Religist at Edinburgh University,

1:29.8

Nazarene Malik, author and columnist at The Guardian, the comedian, Andrew Doyle, and the historian Tim Stanley.

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