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Worldly

The moral urgency of the Uighur crisis

Worldly

Vox Media Podcast Network

News, Politics, News Commentary

4.41.8K Ratings

🗓️ 23 July 2020

⏱️ 44 minutes

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Summary

Zack, Jenn, and Alex talk about the Chinese government's systematic detention of tens of thousands of Uighur Muslims in concentration camps, where many are subjected to torture, brainwashing, and other human rights abuses. They get into the disturbing details of what China is actually doing in these camps, what’s motivating the Chinese leadership to engage in such atrocities, and why the US and international community aren't doing enough to stop it. They conclude by discussing what we can all do to try to change that. References: Vox’s Jen Kirby has a 2018 explainer on China’s treatment of Uighur Muslims. China is forcing the sterilization of Uighur Muslims, and is using Uighur labor to make coronavirus-related PPE. You can find How China Sees the World: Han-Centrism and the Balance of Power in International Politics, the book Alex read from, here. The New York Times reported on about 400 leaked papers from the Chinese government detailing its plan to harshly treat Uighur Muslims. Axios reports how the Chinese government has struggled to explain reports and images of Uighurs put into concentration camps. The BBC reports how companies like Apple and Nike are facing pressure to cut ties with suppliers that use forced Uighur labor. Vice has a stunning documentary on “China’s Vanishing Muslims,” and PBS’s Frontline went “undercover” to see what’s really happening in Xinjiang. There are many groups accepting donations if you want to try to help Uighur Muslims in China. Hosts: Zack Beauchamp (@zackbeauchamp), senior correspondent, Vox Jennifer Williams (@jenn_ruth), senior foreign editor, Vox Alex Ward (@AlexWardVox), national security reporter, Vox Consider contributing to Vox: If you value Worldly’s work, please consider making a contribution to Vox: bit.ly/givepodcasts More to explore: Subscribe for free to Today, Explained, Vox’s daily news podcast to help you understand the news, hosted by Sean Rameswaram. About Vox: Vox is a news network that helps you cut through the noise and understand what's really driving the events in the headlines. Follow Us: Vox.com Newsletter: Vox Sentences Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

In December 2020, a Latino couple was falsely accused by a white mom

0:04.9

influencer of attempting to kidnap her children. The Karen phenomenon where white

0:09.6

women falsely accused people of color of crimes usually fixates on the

0:13.5

accuser the so-called Karen. But for this series we focus on the

0:17.2

innocent couple at the heart of this story. I just want the public to know

0:21.9

what she did was wrong.

0:24.0

In Perfect Paradise People versus Karen,

0:26.4

available now wherever you get your podcasts. New developments have brought the world's attention to what might be the most horrifying story ongoing today,

0:45.9

China's mass internment and torture of the weaker Muslim minority in an attempt to erase their

0:50.5

culture from the map.

0:52.4

These stories have been horrifying, the details of the

0:56.0

concentration camps that China has put them in almost unspeakable. Yet we need to speak

1:00.4

about them. We need to talk about them because this is the sort of abuse

1:03.8

that the world can't turn a blind eye to and yet it has been turning a blind eye to in

1:08.3

large part thanks to well some other really important and scary things going

1:12.0

on on the planet.

1:13.0

Today on worldly, part of the Vox Media Podcast Network,

1:15.6

we are going to try to do our best to bring to light this story,

1:20.6

which we all feel has been

1:23.6

undercovered and under focused on by the international community and our political

1:28.0

leaders. I'm Zag Beacham, here is always with Jen Williams and Alex

1:31.0

Wharton. Hello.

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