This is a memorial to those who still struggle.

This is the memorial given to those who still want to escape.

This is the memorial to those who are still sitting in prison,

whose organs are being harvested.

Recently, Canada unveiled its national memorial to the millions of victims of communism.

In this episode, we sit down with Ludwiklimkowski, chair of the Memorial to Victims of

Communism, Canada, a Land of Refuge.

We discussed the 17-year battle to realize this national monument and why it matters.

To have this common memory place in the heart of our nation is really, really nice.

The final elements on the wall of remembrance are still under development.

This is American Thought Leaders, and I'm Janie Kellogg.

Ludwig Klimkowski, such a pleasure to have you on American Thought Leaders.

Thank you, Jan. Thank you, and it's a great pleasure for me as well.

So the ideology of communism is responsible for hundreds of millions of deaths worldwide.

And there's plentiful immigrants in Canada and the United States from these countries where

all this has happened.

But the memorials to the victims of this ideology are almost nowhere to be seen.

Why is that?

For a variety of reasons.

Number one, we need to acknowledge that communism has not ended.

The perpetrators are still doing the evil deeds even today as we speak.

And unlike, for example, the case of Holocaust, which lasted only for a certain number of years,

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