Welcome to the Conversations that Matter Podcast. My name is John Harris. We are going to talk today about the monument debate in the United States of America.

In fact, I actually do hesitate, I should clarify, to call this a monument debate because it's not really a debate so much as it is

those who would want to take down

symbols representations of heroes

artifacts of history from the nation's past or local

history's past in the nation, they are winning. They are winning all over the

place and most of the time local municipalities are taking down these monuments it seems like without any kind of vote

Or if it is a vote it's very quick the public doesn't know about it and before the public is informed the monument is gone

It's happening on the state level it's happening on like I said local level

And then of course the events that get the most coverage are when mobs protesters

vandals etc go into a community with the intention of taking down a

historical artifact or a symbol of some kind and so they're doing that of course illegally and they're not

being punished very at least I haven't seen examples of people being

published punished very often for it so Those who are like myself who love history and hate seeing some of these things taken down, we feel

at least like we're in the minority.

Now we may not be, but the conservative movement if you want to even

call it that. I hesitate to even call it that anymore, but the opposition to the left, whatever that movement is, is really

split on this. And I'm going to explain that debate as best I can to you and why that dynamic

exists and I also want to talk about as Christians and and then conservatives but Christians first how should we think about what's going on

what about people that have flaws because everyone does every I mean as Christians we believe every single person has sin, right? So what about honoring people and events or at least

marking that an event has taken place in the history of a region. How should we navigate this? And I'll say this right off the top. I don't think there's a silver bullet in all of this. In other words, I don't think you can find chapter and verse,

this is what the Bible says. You shouldn't remove the Roberti Lee monument because it honors the Lord, right?

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