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The Remnant with Jonah Goldberg

The Mom and Pop School of Business

The Remnant with Jonah Goldberg

The Dispatch

Politics, News

4.6 • 6.3K Ratings

🗓️ 13 March 2025

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Summary

Jonah Goldberg has gone AWOL, and Kevin Williamson of Dispatch fame has risen to the task of Remnant hosting duties. Kevin is joined by Devin DeCiantis and Ivan Lansberg to discuss their new book, The Enduring Enterprise: How Family Businesses Thrive in Turbulent Conditions. The trio covers crony capitalism, how businesses can succeed amid political chaos, and how family enterprises can survive the breakneck speed of social change. Show Notes: —Devin and Ivan for Salon: “The Return of Crony Capitalism” —Order The Enduring Enterprise: How Family Businesses Thrive in Turbulent Conditions. The Remnant is a production of The Dispatch, a digital media company covering politics, policy, and culture from a non-partisan, conservative perspective. To access all of The Dispatch’s offerings—including Jonah’s G-File newsletter, regular livestreams, and other members-only content—click here. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Ladies and gentlemen,

0:04.0

Can I please have your attention?

0:18.0

Can you digger?

0:27.5

Greetings, dear listeners, this is the remnant.

0:30.3

This is not Jonah Goldberg.

0:31.7

As I've told many disappointed audiences over the year, this is not Jonah Goldberg.

0:35.0

This is Kevin Williamson.

0:36.5

I used to start these

0:38.2

guest hosting sessions with jokes about coup d'etat, but that seems less funny these days. So I think

0:46.5

I'll forgive and forget the coup d'etat joke today. I have here today a couple of writers who have a new

0:52.9

book out and a conversation that I've

0:54.5

been looking forward to since it was first proposed to me a little while back. And I'm going to try

1:00.1

not to put your names here, but this is Devon Deciantis and Yvonne Landsberg. They are the authors of a

1:05.6

book called The Enduring Enterprise, How Family Businesses Thrive in Turbulent Conditions. And if that sounds like it's just a

1:12.9

kind of business book title to you, fear not. I think it may be a livelier discussion than you

1:18.2

are expecting because they think they've written a book about family businesses. I think they've

1:22.3

written a book about mafias. And we're going to discuss that just a little bit, I think. But in the tradition of the

1:29.5

remnant, we have a good first question for people who've written books, which is, what's your

1:33.5

book about? Thanks for having us, Kevin. Yeah, no, happy to share. We actually wrote this book

1:37.5

to introduce what at the time was a counterintuitive notion, although it's one that probably

1:42.3

feels increasingly obvious to folks who are watching the world unfold around them. And it's that big businesses and, you know although it's one that probably feels increasingly obvious to folks who are

1:44.4

watching the world unfold around them. And it's that big businesses and small who are operating,

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