The Mogcast, a fortnightly conversation with Jacob Rees Mogg about the topics of the day.

Welcome to the latest Mogcast. This is Paul Goodman, editor of Conservative Home, in conversation

with Jacob Rees-Mogg.

Jacob, good afternoon.

Good afternoon, Paul.

Thank you for coming in.

And can I ask you straight away about a claim yesterday in the Sunday Times that when

the Prime Minister said that Keir Starrma had spent most of his time prosecuting journalists

and failing to prosecute Jimmy Saville, that it was you who suggested he said.

That isn't my recollection. What was going on at the time was a very noisy chamber,

and people were shouting things out. I think it came from behind us, but it seemed to me a perfectly fair point to use.

You're not sure it didn't come from you?

Well, I certainly mentioned the point about journalists in the back and forth across the

chamber, but I think it came from behind both of us.

I wasn't sitting next to the Prime Minister, so I wasn't in a particularly good position

to be feeding him lines.

So you don't agree with the Chancellor who said, quote, I wouldn't have said it?

Well, of course I agree that the Chancellor wouldn't have said it, because he said that

he wouldn't have said it, so it would be wrong with me to disagree with the chance that he was suggesting that the Prime Chancellor wouldn't have said it because he said that he wouldn't have said it.

So it would be wrong with me to disagree with the challenge.

But he was suggesting that the Prime Minister shouldn't have said it.

I think the Prime Minister raising the question of responsibility for leaders in their organizations

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