Hey everyone, 2020 is almost over and we're reflecting on conversations we've had with some of our favorite guests.

So we call them up.

Do you think they'll remember us?

Honestly, they probably think we're spam callers.

The online is probably the best podcast.

But Khalil Jabra Mohammed remembered us.

He was on two episodes of ours,

Mass and Carstoration and American Police.

I can always tell how much an interviewer has read the work and totally invested in the details,

the minutia, the footnotes, and that's not common.

And when the American police episode came out,

I was blown away by how much it translates to a general audience.

And so the show works so well because you're committed to the past.

But Khalil, isn't the only one that feels this way?

All right, hold on a second. Let me go get her.

Oh my gosh.

This is Stephanie, Khalil's wife.

She told us that she actually played the American police episode for her town's community police coalition.

I'm like, this should be part of your training because how can you be a police officer

and not know the history of your profession.

And our chief actually said that he would loop that into training.

So whether you listen to our episodes for your own enjoyment or share them with others,

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