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Critics at Large | The New Yorker

The Modern-Day Fight for Ancient Rome

Critics at Large | The New Yorker

The New Yorker

Society & Culture

4.4679 Ratings

🗓️ 5 December 2024

⏱️ 45 minutes

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Summary

Artists owe a great debt to ancient Rome. Over the years, it’s provided a backdrop for countless films and novels, each of which has put forward its own vision of the Empire and what it stood for. On this episode of Critics at Large, Vinson Cunningham, Naomi Fry, and Alexandra Schwartz discuss the latest entry in that canon, Ridley Scott’s “Gladiator II,” which has drawn massive audiences and made hundreds of millions of dollars at the box office. The hosts also consider other texts that use the same setting, from the religious epic “Ben-Hur” to Sondheim’s farcical sword-and-sandal parody, “A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum.” Recently, figures from across the political spectrum have leapt to lay claim to antiquity, even as new translations of Homer have underscored how little we really understand about these civilizations. “Make ancient Rome strange again. Take away the analogies,” Schwartz says. “Maybe that’s the appeal of the classics: to try to keep returning and understanding, even as we can’t help holding them up as a mirror.”

Read, watch, and listen with the critics:

“Gladiator II” (2024)
“I, Claudius” (1976)
“A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum” (1966)
“The Last Temptation of Christ” (1988)
“Monty Python’s Life of Brian” (1979)
“Cleopatra” (1963)
“Spartacus” (1960)
“Ben-Hur” (1959)
“Gladiator” (2000)
The End of History and the Last Man,” by Francis Fukuyama
I, Claudius,” by Robert Graves
I Hate to Say This, But Men Deserve Better Than Gladiator II,” by Alison Wilmore (Vulture)
On Creating a Usable Past,” by Van Wyck Brook (The Dial)
Emily Wilson’s translations of the Odyssey and the Iliad

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Transcript

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0:00.0

How often do you think in your regular life, just every day, you know?

0:05.2

Every day?

0:06.0

You know, on a rolling basis.

0:08.3

How often do you think about the Roman Empire?

0:12.7

I must admit that I think about it not at all.

0:18.4

Zero for no-me.

0:19.8

Zilch!

0:20.4

But I can be made to think of it. Right. When it's time, it's time. And it's time. It is time, my friend. And it's time now. And it's time right now. Welcome to Critics at Large, a podcast from The New Yorker. I'm Nomi Fry.

0:37.7

I'm Alex Schwartz.

0:39.0

And I'm Vincent Cunning.

0:40.5

Each week on this show, we make sense of what's happening in the culture right now.

0:45.4

And how we got it.

0:50.5

Now, I'll say I've recently been thinking about the Roman Empire a lot because over the break, I and we did see Gladiator 2.

1:04.4

I remember that day.

1:07.6

I never forgot it.

1:10.0

But a slave could take revenge against an emperor.

1:15.0

Where were you born?

1:16.6

I don't know.

1:18.4

I never knew a mother.

1:19.3

What were some of the highlights in it?

1:21.1

I call sharks.

1:22.6

I need the sharks in the blood and the water that is weirdly in the Coliseum.

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