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The Mob and the Teamsters Part 2 Frank Fitzsimmons

Gangland Wire

Gary Jenkins: Mafia Detective

True Crime, Documentary, Society & Culture, History

4.6 • 623 Ratings

🗓️ 24 August 2020

⏱️ 44 minutes

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Summary

Cam and Gary continue discussing the Teamsters and the mob. In this episode, they examine Jimmy Hoffa and his efforts to consolidate bargaining with all trucking companies and have one agreement rather than separate agreements with each company, how he used mob muscle, how he ended up in prison and his deal with the devil to get released. Master Freight Agreement Many people view the Pension as the only interchange between the mob and Hoffa, but the relationship went both ways. From 1961-1964, with the help of his fellow Teamster Frank Fitzsimmons and the Executive Board, Hoffa put together the Master Freight Agreement. He negotiated, cajoled, called in favors, and threatened over the course of three years with every Local and shipper in the country in order to set flat salary rates for shipping everyone was willing to accept. Problem was, no one wanted to accept, locals, or shippers, and this is where Jimmy got creative. When the president of some Teamster local decided he wanted more for his members than the Agreement, Jimmy would work with the local mob to get him voted out or knocked around until he agreed. If some business didn’t want to agree to a price across the board, Jimmy called strike, and the mob broke the place up, tires were slashed, windows were broken. When members somewhere didn’t like the deal Hoffa was putting together, he worked with a shipper to hire scab (non-union) labor on the sly until the Teamsters guys started to get hungry from not working. This was incredible negotiation, but even with the mob’s help, it took 3 years to put this contract together. At the same time the Master Freight Agreement was being drafted, Hoffa was also dealing with the legal issues leftover from Bobby Kennedy, jury tampering, and unresolved issues with the mob. Hoffa had appeals, which he would lose, and he would go to prison in 1967. The mob was tired of Jimmy being so tight with the purse strings. They eyed the billion-dollar pension fund and did not want Jimmy to refuse any loans they recommended? The mob groomed Frank Fitzsimmons to move up and replace Hoffa. Jimmy Goes Away When Jimmy went to prison in 1967, he left specific instructions. Allen Dorfman in Chicago and Bill Presser in Cleveland would control the pension. Frank Fitzsimmons would be the acting president. Jimmy went to the infamous “Mafia Row” in Lewisburg. Vinnie Teresa wrote that he was tight with Carmine Galante. He had a falling out with Tony Provenzano while there, which was overseen by Lucchese consigliere Vinny Rao. John Gotti, Paul Vario and Henry Hill were there. It was while Jimmy was away that the mob learned how good it could be. Fitzsimmons was much easier to deal with than Jimmy. The mob liked him for the same reason Jimmy did…he just couldn’t say no. In addition, Allen Dorfman and Bill Presser strengthened their own factions within the Teamsters. Dorfman controlled the money, while Presser and Cleveland built a huge power base. Roy Lee Williams was the only Teamsters official who had the respect of the men, and this gave him a great deal of power within the organization. With Tony Provenzano in prison since 1966 no longer on the Executive Board, the New York Genovese family’s grasp of the Teamsters slipped. The Chicago Outfit wrestled control of the organization and the pension fund—and eventually Las Vegas—away from The Genovese and the New York Mafia. Chicago, Kansas City, and Cleveland would stand at the top of the Teamsters for several more years. The Mob Moves On with Frank Fitzsimmons Hoffa intended to run the union from his prison cell, using Fitz as his mouthpiece; Hoffa wanted to keep total control, but after years of abuse, Fitzsimmons rebelled…and the Board supported him. The mob liked their new control without Hoffa. Hoffa could say no to the mob, and because of his popularity with the men, he was too powerful to ignore, but with Hoffa gone, the mob directed their area locals and Teamster Delegates to fall in behind Frank Fitzs...

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0:00.0

You are listening to Gangland Wire, hosted by former Kansas City Police Intelligence Unit Detective Gary Jenkins.

0:18.1

Welcome all your wiretavers out there. We're back with the second episode of an ongoing long-term view of the Teamsters Union and their connection to organized crime.

0:31.3

Now, Cam, you talked about how the rank-and-file guys always supported Hoffa hafa they loved hafa and they felt like any

0:39.7

outside interference from that bobby kennedy especially he was this little rich kid and they're

0:45.1

trying to tell them how they do their business which i can see with these accent and everything

0:49.5

and then you got off it's kind of uh not really street but but more working class they always say accent and

0:57.2

and Bobby Kennedy he'd been to Harvard and raised with the you know in the finest of circumstances

1:02.9

and surrounded by people that talk different than timmy often did uh real intellectual type and

1:10.1

so i remember talking to a team sure sometime I'd say in the 70s and

1:14.6

he didn't know exactly what I did that he didn't know I was in the intelligence unit that didn't

1:19.3

really mean anything to him but I just kind of brought up the teamsers just to get kind of get a feel

1:23.6

for you know what these guys think you know that because it'd been in the papers by then about all the

1:29.3

different organized crime people in Roy Williams in Kansas City. And he, and his reaction or retort was,

1:36.5

well, he said, a goddamn government. He said the federal government, they want to break the

1:40.8

Teamsters Union. And so they just go after certain people and

1:44.5

make them look bad and you know come up with cases against them and and they just

1:49.6

want to break our union they want to hurt us is what they want to do so you know that was

1:54.0

a prevailing thought of the working guy about any investigation into the union and that's

2:00.0

that's really hard to overcome that, to get people to say, hey, these people are bad.

2:07.9

No matter what you tell them, you can't really show them exactly how they're bad.

2:14.4

And you can show that they have these connections but they don't really believe

2:18.1

you know they believe that Hoffa would then you know he would control these mob guys and use them to

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