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More or Less: Behind the Stats

The mistake in Trump’s tariff formula

More or Less: Behind the Stats

BBC

Business, Mathematics, Science, News Commentary, News

4.63.5K Ratings

🗓️ 9 April 2025

⏱️ 30 minutes

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Summary

What is the error in the calculation Donald Trump used to work out his new tariffs?

What happened when the government ordered a recount of bobbies on the beat?

When is a tax freeze not a tax freeze?

And do redheads really have a 25% higher tolerance to pain?

Tim Harford investigates some of the numbers in the news.

This episode was originally broadcast on the 9th April.

Presenter: Tim Harford Reporter: Charlotte McDonald Producers: Nathan Gower and Lizzy McNeill Series producer: Tom Colls Production co-ordinator: Brenda Brown Sound mix: James Beard Editor: Richard Vadon

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0:00.0

If a Banksy appeared on your house, you'd be sitting on a fortune, right?

0:07.0

At first you think you're gifted, but you're actually not.

0:10.5

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0:17.3

And the true cost of free art for the people who have to live with it.

0:21.5

40,000 pounds cost per annum.

0:23.8

We didn't know what to do.

0:25.5

Nobody's turned up to say, we'll help you protect it.

0:29.0

The Banksy story.

0:30.3

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0:36.2

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0:40.2

Hello and welcome to the last in this series of more or less.

0:44.1

We're making a list, we're checking it twice, just to make sure we haven't accidentally

0:48.0

tariffed some penguins, and I'm Tim Harford.

0:51.5

This week, when is a tax freeze, not a tax freeze? Hello, hello, hello,

0:56.3

strange goings on in the world of counting police officers? Charlotte McDonald tells me why

1:02.1

redheads are tougher than I am. But first, let's start with Liberation Day. The day,

1:08.7

US trade policy liberated itself from the shackles of

1:12.7

rationality. In a few moments, I will sign a historic executive order instituting reciprocal

1:19.4

tariffs on countries throughout the world. Reciprocal, that means they do it to us and we do

1:26.2

it to them. Very simple. Can't get any simpler than that.

1:30.6

Let's just get the obvious stuff out of the way. These tariffs are not reciprocal. The average

1:36.9

tariff the EU puts on the US is somewhere between 1 and 5%, depending on who's counting. They got a

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