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The Dr. Phil Podcast

The Mississippi Miracle: What Happens When a State Gets Education Right

The Dr. Phil Podcast

Dr. Phil McGraw

Education, Society & Culture

4.313.5K Ratings

🗓️ 20 January 2026

⏱️ 24 minutes

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Summary

Mississippi was supposed to fail. Instead, it blew up the education playbook. Once near the bottom in reading, it’s now one of the most improved states in the country and others are scrambling to copy what worked. In this episode of The Real Story, Dr. Phil cuts through the noise and shows how Mississippi followed the science of reading, held the system accountable, and got results without throwing more money at the problem. No politics. No excuses. Just proof. If this worked in Mississippi, why isn’t it working everywhere?


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0:00.0

When you think about Mississippi, what's the first thing that comes to mind? If you played backyard

0:04.9

football or flag football, it might be one Mississippi, two Mississippi, three Mississippi. That's the way

0:10.6

we used to count before you could rush the quarterback and try to stop the play. The name is so long

0:18.2

that gave you time because you didn't have blockers. So you had to make up things so you could get the game to work.

0:24.0

Or it might be spelling it really fast.

0:26.6

M-I-S-S-I-S-I-P-P-I.

0:28.5

The word is so tricky, the easiest way to spell it was to do it really fast in rhythm so you didn't have to really think about it.

0:34.9

When you think about Mississippi, you may picture the Old South, some nostalgic things, Elvis, catfish, sweet tea, southern hospitality. And if we're

0:45.6

being honest, there were some ugly times, too. Civil rights struggles, slavery, some really, really ugly

0:53.5

parts of our country.

0:55.0

But there's a different story today, one that you probably don't think about when you think

1:00.3

about today's Mississippi, because it is becoming known as a shining example of excellence

1:06.6

in American education.

1:09.3

That's right.

1:10.2

These aren't just dumb hillbilly southerners down there.

1:13.3

The headlines tell the real story.

1:15.6

Mississippi's reading triumph is no miracle.

1:19.1

It's the future of education.

1:21.8

Think about that.

1:23.1

Mississippi, the future of education.

1:26.4

Another headline states nationwide turn to Mississippi for literacy solutions as reading crisis spreads.

1:34.7

Another headline, Mississippi's education miracle, a model for global literacy reform, while education is floundering across much of the country.

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