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I'm John Voorhees and with me is Federico Vitechi.

Hey, Federico.

Hello, John. How are you? I'm having a great day. I'm having a greates and with me is Federico Vitechi. Hey, Federico. Hello, John. How are you?

I'm having a great day. I'm having a great day. I wanted to talk to you about apps today. What do you think?

Well, it seems like it's like a different way to go for this. Well, I mean, the podcast is called app stories after all. So it's all it only seems fair that we talk about apps. Every in a while every once in a while um you you came

up with this topic which is something that that i think we have discussed on and off on max stories

weekly on the monthly on the monthly on the site on app stories this idea of uh you you call it

the missing middle.

Can you explain what you mean by this?

What sort of topic we're gonna talk about?

Yeah, we're gonna talk about kind of the evolution

of projects and businesses and their software needs.

And we're specifically gonna be talking about Mac stories

because I think when you and I first started working together, software needs. And we're specifically going to be talking about Mac Stories because, you know,

I think when you and I first started working together, we, and for many years, we have used

essentially consumer apps to run Mac Stories. Very, you know, we did have, we were using Slack

for a while, but we're not anymore. We have had, you know, the one-off here and there, and we use Google Workspace.

We've been using that for a very long time in its many iterations and names.

But for the most part, you know, we kind of all, and this is one of the actually, one of the things that I love about what we do is that nobody's telling me what app to use, which was

something that drove me bananas. As somebody who really was into apps, drove me bananas when I was in

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