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Archetypes

The Misconception of Ambition with Serena Williams

Archetypes

Archewell Audio

History, Society & Culture

4.2967 Ratings

🗓️ 23 August 2022

⏱️ 63 minutes

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Summary

Meghan talks to the one and only Serena Williams about the double standard women face when they are labeled "ambitious" and the ripple effect this has on other aspects of their lives. This groundbreaking premiere episode also features Dr. Laura Kray, a leading expert on gender in the workplace.

1993 interview with Meghan used with permission from Nickelodeon.

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0:00.0

Lemonada.

0:05.0

When I was 11 years old growing up in LA, I saw a commercial that would change the way I understood my place in the world.

0:18.0

Let me be clear. It wasn't because this ad was some kind of ingenious piece of marketing.

0:25.0

Actually, it was just the opposite.

0:27.0

So here's what happened. I was in the sixth grade, I was sitting in my classroom,

0:30.0

and we were watching TV when a commercial came on.

0:33.3

The gloves are coming off.

0:37.3

Women are fighting greasy pots and pans with ivory clear.

0:42.1

I was furious. Women. and pants with ivory clear.

0:42.6

I was furious.

0:44.4

Women?

0:46.0

Did I really just hear that guy say just women as in only women?

0:50.4

Only women.

0:50.9

Women are the only ones who wash dishes, and then I heard them.

0:56.6

These two boys in my class breathing life into my biggest fear.

1:01.6

They said, yeah, that's where women belong in the kitchen.

1:05.6

Oh man, this did not sit well with 11 year old me.

1:11.9

They knew it hurt my feelings. It makes me feel like they're going to grow up thinking

1:16.7

that girls are less than them. Yeah, in case you couldn't tell, that's me.

1:22.6

From 1993, on Nick News.

1:25.7

I don't think it's right for kids to grow up thinking

1:28.3

these things that just mom does everything.

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