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Welcome to today's podcast, sponsored by Hillsdale College, all things Hillsdale at Hillsdale.

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Back to the Hugh Hewitt Show.

I'm guest host Kurt Schlichter.

And if you were listening right now, right here on your radio dial or on the Salem News Channel app, you would have seen my next guest.

Dr. Sebastian Gorka, he is the Deputy National Security Advisor for Canada Terrorism.

He is a close personal friend.

I am very proud to welcome him to the Hugh Hewitt show.

Welcome, Dr. Gorka.

Greetings, my dear friend.

Happy New Year.

Just one small correction, deputy assistant to the president and senior director for characterism.

How is it to host my former show, Colonel, Kay?

Well, I hope I'm meeting your exacting standards, Dr. Gorka, and I'm glad to say that you haven't

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