The Minnesota Fraud Scandal | An Unfiltered Conversation with Nick Shirley

The Iced Coffee Hour

Graham Stephan/Jack Selby

Entrepreneurship, Business

4.4 • 786 Ratings

🗓️ 3 January 2026

⏱️ 96 minutes

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0:00.0	Right, that's it. Come on. Lights out. You've got a test tomorrow. Just two minutes. I'm about to reach the next level. It's going off now. Yeah, whatever. Let's see. Where's the app? Oh, here it is. What? How? Oh, no. You're out. Better look next time. Mom! It's game over for late nights on school nights. EE Wi-Fi controls help you get them off the Wi-Fi and into bed.
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0:27.8	To verify I see EE.cote.orgote.
0:30.2	Fraud is everywhere in the United States.
0:32.2	The national spotlight continues to be right here in Minnesota as federal authorities
0:36.1	investigate allegations now of widespread fraud.
0:39.0	Today it was several daycare centers. Now this all comes in the wake of a viral video on daycare centers in Minnesota.
0:45.4	We'd like to ask where the money's going. I mean, I literally uncovered and showed people potentially the largest fraud scandal in U.S. history.
0:52.2	$110 million in fraud at Minnesota daycare centers.
0:56.0	Why do you think this went so viral?
0:58.4	Because we always talk about fraud. You always hear about issues here in the United States.
1:01.4	And so it was the first time where Americans could really see that fraud is taking place
1:04.7	openly. And people are receiving millions of dollars. And they're actually not doing anything.
1:09.1	We have a governor who fucking doesn't care.
1:11.6	What's been the downside to this much virality?
1:14.6	They're trying to get people reasons to take me out because of what I've exposed.
1:18.6	Police have now appeared on scene.
1:20.6	When you were making that video, did you uncover other fraud in the process?
1:25.6	This is just the beginning.
1:32.1	Nick Shirley, thank you so much for coming on the Ice Coffee Hour podcast.
1:35.1	I can only imagine how busy you've been over the past 72 hours.
1:38.0	It's been blowing up.
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