Hello everybody and welcome back to Revolutionary Left Radio.

On today's episode I have a really wonderful conversation for you.

It's with the science fiction writer Kim Stanley Robinson focused primarily around

his newest book The Ministry for the Future.

It's a novel, it's a science fiction novel that depicts the near future in the coming

decades as humanity struggles with increasing climate change.

It talks about the social effects, the geopolitical effects, the economic effects, scientific

effects, and it really covers the entire gamut of humanity going through a really rough

patch in human history, perhaps the roughest, and in some ways dividing further and some

ways coming up, coming together, ultimately presenting a fairly optimistic view of the

future but not one without plenty of lumps on the way.

And the reason why this is fascinating aside from all that the content on its face is

that this is the rest of our lives.

If you're listening to this, you're in your 20s or 30s or 40s, maybe even older than

that, the several decades that will make up the rest of our existence on this planet will

be revolved around climate change and the social political struggles revolving around it,

which is part and parcel with the struggle against capitalism, against imperialism, against

hypernationalism, etc.

So this is a fascinating conversation we cover so much ground if you love this conversation

which I know most of you will definitely check out the book.

Plenty of people are still in quarantine, you have time to kill, it's a really engaging

novel that really takes you through the most likely I think scenario for how climate change

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