Hello and welcome to another episode of Chasing Excellence. My name is Patrick Cummings. As always, I'm here with Van Bergeron.

Every week on the show, we dedicate some time to explore how we can live a life of better health and increased fulfillment.

We answer your questions about the five factors of health, dive deep on living a life of excellence

and explore the strategies and frameworks to help us chase what truly matters.

Thank you so much for joining us this week.

Hello and how are you Ben? Hello and I'm doing well. Thank you so much for joining us this week. Hello and how are you been?

Hello and I'm doing well.

Thank you, Patrick.

It is a beautiful day here.

Welcome to Spring time.

Springtime in New England is special.

I know I got the windows open in the office.

It's always nice when we get to get to get to that point of the year.

What we've got this episode addressing,

listener questions about how to manage upper body cardio following an injury and tips for establishing leadership in a gym environment.

For our workout we're returning to another one of our frameworks jumping back into what we've

referred to in the past as the hierarchy of mindset I think we're going to change the

name of that we're going to talk about what it is and update some of our thinking

around it and then we will wrap up the episode with a hopper talk question about what we were really into as kids and are excited about this because a lot of the time because we've been doing this for many many years a lot of the times I have a sense of your answers to these questions.

I don't know that I have a good sense of what your answer to what you were really

into as a kid, so I'm excited to actually learn what you were like as a kid.

Just a reminder before we get into the warm-up If you want to get a question into a future episode, head to

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