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Hi, I'm Anne's Train Champs.

So there's a phrase that comes up when we talk about acts of terror, senseless violence,

which implies that there can be no comprehensible reason, no sane rationale for shooting up a

nightclub or loading a truck with explosives. But terrorism experts tell us that that's not actually

true.

There are real compelling reasons and motivations, some of which we share, which can drive ordinary people to commit extreme acts of violence.

I think the closest I ever came to traveling overseas to fight was one time I was in the mosque with a few of my friends

two of them they were asked right on the spot do you want to go to Yemen and they said sure and that

was the last I saw of them heard of them heard from them Don't know what happened. Just disappeared.

I was ready to go, but I hadn't done enough of the prep work, so to speak.

My name is Mubin Sheikh.

I'm a former extremist turned government-level counterterrorism expert.

One of the biggest misconceptions about terrorists is that they're nothing like us.

They don't have the same feelings, values, ideals.

They've somehow parted company from the human race.

Today, on to the best of our knowledge, we're going to show you that that's not the case.

We're going to ask you to imagine an extremist who is maybe not that different from the

guy next door, someone like Mubin Sheikh. I was born in a time where there was one mosque in all of

Toronto. I come from a religious family. We would go to the mosque at least once a day. So it was me going to public

school by daytime and going to Quran school by evening time and basically setting the stage

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