Hello and welcome to the Slow Home podcast. This is the podcast all about slow living in a fast world.

I'm Brooke McCallory and thank you for joining us. I'm Ben and welcome to episode 197 and this one's

a little different. It's a little different. Yeah, it is actually quite a lot

different. So it's not you or I doing the interviewing today. It is our friend, friend of the show.

Friend of the show. Friend of the show. Mike, you probably know from his podcast, live immediately.

And if you don't, immediately go over there and get living.

Nice. If not a little aggressive. You're welcome, Mike.

Anyway, backstory for why this episode is a little different. Mike and Sam Dove live in Newcastle. So Sam is another person I've met through

the podcast. And they wanted to put on a book launch event during the upcoming book tour and

contacted me and we spoke to my book publisher and it's all going ahead. So I'm doing a book talk

at Hunter Design School on the 27th of September. So you've got a few days if you live in Newcastle

or want to make the trip up at six o'clock on the Wednesday night at Hunter Design School. So

that's going to be a lovely evening.

And Mike, Mike and Sam will be there and they're hosting it. So he and I wanted to get together

and do an episode of his show just to publicize the, you know, the event. And then we thought

that it might be a nice idea for him to interview me and post it

here as well because we don't often get me being interviewed.

Yeah, apart from me and I'm no expert.

But it's really nice to get like an external person to interview you and ask the questions

that may seem very obvious to me that probably aren't.

Yeah. So anyway, Mike and I have a fantastic conversation and I'm really, really glad that we're,

that he's agreed to, to have it cross-published, I guess, on his feed and ours. And yeah,

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