Hello everyone. I'm Nick Houselman, co-host of the Muckrake podcast, and I'm pleased to present to you a recording of a live appearance that I made alongside my co-host, Jared Yates Sexton, while at Changing Hands Bookstore in Phoenix, Arizona, in support of Jared's latest book, The Midnight Kingdom, a history of power, paranoia, and the coming crisis, available wherever you buy your books.

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And now I present to you

our live discussion

about the Midnight Kingdom.

Thank you.

Thank you all for coming.

I am Nick Houselman.

This is Jared Dade Sexton.

We are, this is great.

We know, we do a lot of our

podcasts separately.

He lives

in much farther away than I do in a way that

we're not usually in the same place. So it's a real pleasure for

us to be together and look at each other's eyes as we speak.

To share the same space and the same

gravity. Absolutely. And with y'all. So thank you so much for coming out.

It's really cool to be here.

So just real quickly, if you haven't bought the book, I think one of the goals I have here is to help you make that decision. Because the book really is something that it's very valuable in a way that it's not flowery prose that's going to be filled with all sorts of, you know, flowerly language, but what it does do is it puts you, like, in the room, and it really gives you a sense of what is happening throughout history. And it kind of actually covers a lot of, maybe even the greatest hits of things that you might have already studied growing up in all sorts of history classes. But what's interesting is that I think

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