I have the worst look at like stepping repeats because like I'm name famous but I'm not like

base famous and so like sometimes you'll just step out and strike a corny little pose,

pop your little chest out and nobody will take a picture and like once you've been through

enough of that like there's nothing you can do to me out here. How many go on Rudd's scare?

He's a CFDA young designer or a winner. What do you think of what's his name?

Rowell Zepal. He also... Yeah, Louis.

Lou Arya. I don't know. Are you allowed to spill the tea on that guy?

What's the tea? Yeah, I don't know. I mean there's no tea. I'm just curious about your opinion

because I am actually not familiar with his fashion but I think he's really hot.

I love it. Rowell's been on the scene for a minute. Like he's one of the co-founders of Hoodbye.

Err, he's been in the scene. Like he's like a New York girl and so he's been out here for a minute

like doing his thing. He's a kupo Tard. Exactly. Right. As we all aspire to be. Yeah, absolutely.

But like now is his time. Now it's his moment. He's been... It really does take like 10 years of

hustle and finesse to like finally force people to acknowledge you in fashion. Yeah.

And for some reason like I've been lucky enough to like cut that down a little bit.

Why do you think that you were so lucky? I think I'm kind of at the intersection of a lot of hot

topics at the fashion industry wants to touch on. Like a lot of my story has to do with like

decentralizing the American fashion narrative like away from the creative coasts, really opening up

like what it means to be an American fashion designer with a different perspective and a different

like geological focus. I am like female founder Hispanic. Nice. Like yeah.

Like little touch points. I got a lot of like adversity accolades that could be manipulated to

suit a lot of different nerd. Do you lean into those... I don't know. Oh my God.

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