From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies, history is riddled with unexplained events.

You can turn back now, or learn the stuff they don't want you to know.

Welcome back to the show, my name is Matt.

They call me Ben. We are joined with our super producer Paul Decker.

Most importantly, you are here, you are you, and that makes this stuff they don't want you to know.

I think I may have inverted the typical greeting, but I like it.

But you get the gist. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

The gist. Matt, today we have a very special collaboration.

Yes, we're getting together with another podcast that's on our network called Culture Kings.

It's hosted by two guys Ed Gremon Placier and Jackie Sneel.

These guys are not just comedians, actors, writers, performers.

They're also two of the smartest, coolest dudes that we know.

And so for a long time behind the scenes, we had been putting together some way for us to

collaborate. And we landed on a topic that really interested all four of us.

Yeah, pretty much immediately.

Well, and it's something that perhaps you and I and I alone might not have all of the information,

or we don't have the understanding of kind of the bigger topic.

And that's mostly my fault. I'm, I apologize. I'm going to go put myself out there.

It's because I know so very little about sports and sports icons and anything around

a lot of this stuff. When, when we talked to Brian too a long time ago,

that was a big struggle for me. I just didn't grasp a lot of this stuff.

But these guys have a handle on it and they're really going to help us understand

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