Hey y'all all it's Trevel and Jerry and if you couldn't tell by the episode title we're finally

tackling R Kelly and Michael Jackson that means that we likely may be making mention of allegations of

sexual assault and abuse.

If that's something you'd rather not listen to, we get it.

Feel free to skip this episode and revisit your favorite from our catalog.

I suggest probably why why people love Wakanda or maybe Gail King and Kobe Bryant or my

favorite when gospel music hits and leave a mark and leaves and leaves a mark.

You struggled there because I was not sure I was saying the right title. Anyway, let's get started.

Welcome to Van Thai, one of the best podcasts of this abomination of a year.

Or also the podcast for all those very complex and complicated conversations, especially the ones

that we've been promising for you all year long about the great areas in our lives.

I am journalist and writer Jared Hill.

I am Trevel Anderson Entertainment,

journalist, film critic, other things sometimes as well.

Coming up on the show today, we've teased it literally

since the very first episode of this show.

We pitched this show with this.

We did. Robert Sylvester Kelly and Michael Joseph Jackson.

It's self-explanatory at this point I feel like, but first we're going to get into our

Paps past the popcorn for the week. This is our segment to dish and chat about all the solutions

y'all doing on social media.

And earlier this week, over the weekend exactly,

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