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Off Air with Jane & Fi

The Michael Ball boobage antenna (with Kirstie Allsopp and Phil Spencer)

Off Air with Jane & Fi

The Times

Conversation, Relationships, Fi Glover, News, Women, Community, Chat, Entertainment News, Society & Culture, The Times, Jane Garvey, Times Radio, Entertainment

4.61.1K Ratings

🗓️ 13 May 2026

⏱️ 53 minutes

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Summary

It's hot in the studio today - Jane's stuck in a tuna rut, and Fi is stuck on the difference between beans and soup. Please bear with us. Jane and Fi also chat saucepan lid storage, multi-generational living, sun lounger kerfuffles, and driving instructors.


Plus, presenters and property experts Kirstie Allsopp and Phil Spencer discuss the new series of 'Location, Location, Location'.

Our next book club pick will be a collection of short stories! 'Interpreter of Maladies' is by Jhumpa Lahiri. 


You can check out our YouTube channel here: https://www.youtube.com/@OffAirWithJaneAndF


Our new playlist 'Coiled Spring' is up and running: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/4tmoCpbp42ae7R1UY8ofza


Our most asked about book is called 'The Later Years' by Peter Thornton.


If you want to contact the show to ask a question and get involved in the conversation then please email us: janeandfi@times.radioFollow us on Instagram! @janeandfi


Podcast Producer: Eve Salusbury

Executive Producer: Rosie Cutler


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0:00.0

Welcome to the podcast. Thank you. That's kind. Yes, no, you're very, very welcome. So in the end, nothing much happened yesterday, but something might happen tomorrow. Well, that brings you up to speed with Britain's politics. Should we move on to everything else? I don't know. It does feel, I think it's worth talking about because we don't know, people say the timeline, the timeline for an orderly transition and handover of the baton of the PM from one person to another.

0:33.2

Could be anything from three weeks to about four months and I can't take this for four months.

0:36.7

Oh, four months. No thanks.

0:38.1

The pan will boil dry. Jane, I'd rather, it was on a fast boil. I don't want to slow simmer

0:46.1

for the whole summer. Which brings us on to sauce pernets. Oh my God, what a link. What a link. And I

0:51.9

didn't do that deliberately at all. There are just so many fantastic solutions.

0:56.5

And I'm so grateful for all of them. And we're grateful too to Sophie, who drew this controversy to our attention.

1:02.8

This is from Tamazin who's in Thailand. In answer to storing saucepan lids, we moved into this house in Thailand.

1:08.1

And this dish rack was already in place above the draining board.

1:12.3

It's brilliant. I can wash the saucepan lids, put them on the rack, no need to dry them.

1:17.3

As you can see that I do the same with my water glasses. They stay there until I need them again.

1:22.0

No need to stack and drop and smash around in your saucepan cupboard trying to match pans with lids.

1:28.7

It has solved my lifelong dilemma in one fell swoop. So there we are. That's one possible solution, a rack

1:34.8

that is purely for your pan lids. I don't think it is though, Jane. I don't want to start a domestic

1:40.8

dispute. But it's basically the new modern steel or whatever equivalent of the rack that's in

1:48.5

the original Frankfurt kitchen, isn't it?

1:50.8

Which was so clever because it was just a wooden rack where you can put all your plates.

1:56.4

And it is in quite a lot of kitchen designs now.

1:59.0

Just remind us what, this is a Frankfurt kitchen

2:01.0

which the Germans invented after the Second World War

2:04.0

when space was at a premium.

2:05.8

Yeah, when they were building very small apartments.

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