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The Messiah and his Kittens (Pt 2) - Nice girls from good families

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🗓️ 4 February 2022

⏱️ 33 minutes

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Summary

In the second episode of this four part series, we hear the testimony of a woman who says she was sexually abused by Adnan Oktar. Plus, a former male member of the cult rethinks his own crimes.

In January last year, the leader of Turkey's most powerful cult was sentenced to over 1,000 years in prison. But what happened?

This podcast series will be released every Friday here on Stories of our times over four weeks.

This podcast was brought to you thanks to the support of readers of The Times and The Sunday Times. Subscribe today and get one month free at: thetimes.co.uk/storiesofourtimes.

Host: Louise Callaghan, Middle East Correspondent at The Sunday Times.

If you, or someone you know has been affected by the issues raised in this episode, the website below has a summary of all available support services:

https://sexualabusesupport.campaign.gov.uk/

If you can’t find the information or support you’re looking for above, you can contact Victim Support’s 24/7 support line on 08 08 16 89 111.

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Hi, it's Manvine here.

0:02.5

Today's episode is the second in a four-part series

0:05.4

presented by my colleague Louise Callahan,

0:08.2

the Middle East correspondent at the Sunday Times.

0:10.9

This is part two of the Messiah and His Kittens.

0:16.0

Before we begin, a warning that some listeners might find what you're about to hear distressing.

0:22.6

Last time on The Messiah and His Kittins.

0:25.6

It was like being invited to the circus and who says no?

0:30.6

Welcome.

0:31.6

How are you?

0:32.6

I was losing my old friends and my social support from the outside world.

0:39.9

It's actually about how to enslave, especially young women and young men, who are open to

0:48.4

idealizing any idea.

0:52.4

Other people have described it as a sex cult. Is that right?

0:56.2

No, that's just because they're jealous.

1:02.5

He married me in 1988. I was 16. It was a traumatic event that...

1:13.6

That's Seda Isshildo.

1:15.6

She's explaining to me how, as a teenager, the Turkish cult leader Adna Nocto took her as one of his wives.

1:21.6

Around that time, everybody was getting married with each other.

1:25.6

And there were a lot of girls they wanted to get

1:29.5

married to him but lucky me I was the chosen one how long were you married to Adan

1:37.4

Octavo? I was married till I was 18 sexual abuse started right after I married him.

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