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Hello Daniel, how are you?

Okay, how are you? Okay, how are you?

Thanks for having me on.

You're welcome. This is Glenn Lowry, the Glen Show bloggingheads.

TV, sponsored by the Watson Institute for International Public Affairs Affairs at Brown University where I'm a professor of economics.

And I'm with Daniel Markovitz, who is the Guido Calabrazi Professor of Law at the Yale Law School and author of the book,

The Meritocracy Trap.

And we're here to talk about Daniel's book.

It was published last year by Penguin Random House.

Amidst much fanfare, it is a full throat that I assure you, it is a very vigorous

critique of the status quo with respect to hierarchy and meritocratic stratification and so on.

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