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Stay Tuned with Preet

The Merit Trap (with Michael Sandel)

Stay Tuned with Preet

Vox Media Podcast Network

Society & Culture, Politics, Government, News

4.832.3K Ratings

🗓️ 10 September 2020

⏱️ 83 minutes

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Summary

On this week’s episode of Stay Tuned with Preet, “The Merit Trap,” Preet answers listener questions about whether state attorneys general can indict a sitting president, the status of the Senate Judiciary Committee's long-standing “blue slip” policy, and the move by the Department of Justice to take over the defense of President Trump in a defamation suit filed by columnist E. Jean Carroll. Then, Harvard philosophy professor Michael Sandel joins Preet for a conversation about his new book, “The Tyranny of Merit: What’s Become of the Common Good?” where he explores the corrosive role of meritocracy in the politics of our current moment. For show notes and a transcript of the episode, head to: https://cafe.com/stay-tuned/the-merit-trap-with-michael-sandel/ To listen to Stay Tuned bonus content, become a member of CAFE Insider at: CAFE.com/Insider Sign up to receive the CAFE Brief, a weekly newsletter featuring analysis byElie Honig, and features by CAFE staff: CAFE.com/brief And if you haven’t already, listen to a sample from this week’s episode of the CAFE Insider podcast for free at CAFE.com or in the Stay Tuned feed. As always, tweet your questions to @PreetBharara with hashtag #askpreet, email us at [email protected], or call 669-247-7338 to leave a voicemail. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

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0:55.9

From Cafe, welcome to Stay Tune. I'm Pete Barara. People who have technocratic expertise,

1:05.5

but who lack human judgment and experience, practical wisdom, sense of history, they've

1:14.4

gotten us, if you just look back at the last half century, they've gotten us into some

1:22.9

pretty dangerous political circumstance. That's Michael Sandel. He's an esteemed philosophy

1:30.0

professor at Harvard, and I sat in his classroom many years ago to learn about justice. During

1:35.4

his four decades at the school, he's inspired thousands of others to explore thorny ethical

1:39.7

issues. This week, Professor Sandel is publishing a new book, The Terranie of Merit, What's

1:44.8

Become of the Common Good. Sandel and I talk about the roots of America's obsession with

1:49.1

meritocracy, and why we might need to retire the word smart. That's coming up. Stay tuned.

1:59.1

Let's get to your questions. This question comes in a tweet from Twitter user Darren

2:12.8

K.H., who writes, don't understand how actions prior to POTUS's term can engage the resources

2:18.8

to the DOJ to defend. Hashtag asked pre. Thanks Darren for your question. I've gotten

2:24.0

this question a lot over the last 24 hours. You're obviously referring to the case of

2:28.0

E. Jean Carroll against Donald Trump. E. Jean Carroll is a woman who claims that many

2:32.9

years ago Donald Trump raped her. And after she made those allegations, Donald Trump

2:37.6

said in return that she was a liar and was making it up. She has since filed a defamation

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