In the days, weeks, months, and probably first few years, I can say that it was an overwhelming part of my subconscious.

I think as I learned to talk about it and cope with it a little bit more,

it didn't have the same overwhelming presence, but it never goes away. There isn't a June 13th that goes by that doesn't get some thought.

There isn't, you know, a Facebook post somewhere or an update from the family that I don't see and it just reminds me.

So there are even still 12 years later a number of reminders, be in physical or just a mental

thought that comes to pass.

As we've analyzed and debriefed the tragedy of the June 13th mishap, we've met with many aviators

with diverse backgrounds and specialties. Their analysis has helped us to build a picture of what

happened that fateful day, and though conclusions have proven difficult to draw, they are each

affected by the lasting lessons. What we haven't discussed, though, is the family behind each of

these aviatorsators and the effect of

the risks that they so routinely take, well, what it has on them. We sought out Shug's wife,

Sonia, for an interview, and she graciously agreed to come on to discuss Shug and her experiences

after the mishap. Her account of Jeremy is as beautiful as it is honest,

and we are grateful for her remembrance of Jeremy

and her strength in the face of such a tragedy.

No, and honestly, it's one of the hardest thing when someone says,

I'm sorry, it's always so awkward. You never know what to say, you know, so it's okay of the hardest thing when someone says, I'm sorry, it's always so awkward. You never

know what to say, you know, so it's okay. Yeah, okay. Good. I appreciate that. Well, if you remember,

when we first spoke, it's been a couple weeks now or a month, I think I had asked you something

about Jeremy, and you just jumped right into this discussion about love at first kiss and all that.

Do you remember mentioning that?

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