The Mental Deterioration of Donald Trump: With Dr. John Gartner
The Bill Press Pod
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4.7 • 601 Ratings
🗓️ 9 September 2025
⏱️ 41 minutes
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Summary
In this episode, Dr. John Gartner, a clinical psychologist and former professor, discusses the mental and cognitive decline of former President Donald Trump. Dr. Gartner emphasizes that Trump's deteriorating condition, which includes signs of dementia, malignant narcissism, and potential bipolar spectrum disorder, was evident even before his presidency and has worsened over time. The conversation highlights Trump's frequent, erratic social media usage, his memory lapses, and his increasingly incoherent speech as symptoms that support this diagnosis. Dr. Gartner also expresses concern over the normalization of Trump's abnormal behavior by the media and political allies. The episode explores the potential dangers of Trump's unpredictability, especially regarding impulsive decisions that could have grave consequences. The episode concludes with a discussion about the importance of mental health evaluations for presidential candidates and the systemic failures that prevent the invocation of the 25th Amendment.
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| 0:16.0 | Hello, good friends. Good to see you again, and welcome back to the Bill Press pod. |
| 0:23.7 | Given bruises on his hand and a few near crack calls, there's been a lot of questions lately about Donald Trump's physical health. |
| 0:32.0 | But for most Americans, his mental health is a bigger concern. |
| 0:36.4 | In fact, the series of podcasts we did a couple of years ago |
| 0:39.8 | in which several leading psychologists said Trump showed signs of significant cognitive decay |
| 0:46.1 | remain the most listened to of all the podcasts we've done in the last six years. |
| 0:52.5 | And you may remember that last year during the campaign, another |
| 0:56.4 | leading psychologist, Dr. John Gartner, warned us that Trump's mental health problems were so |
| 1:02.1 | serious he might not be able to handle the duties of the presidency. Well, he's been present again now |
| 1:09.4 | for eight months. |
| 1:19.0 | So we thought it was time to check in again with Dr. Gartner to get the latest on mental health patient number 47. |
| 1:22.1 | Dr. Gardner, good to talk to you again. |
| 1:25.0 | Thanks for rejoining us here on the Bill Press 5. |
| 1:25.7 | Good to have you back. |
| 1:26.7 | Happy to. |
| 1:27.4 | Thanks for having me me and the last time |
| 1:28.7 | we talked you remember was during the campaign yeah when you warned that uh donald trump was showing |
| 1:34.7 | such signs of mental deficiency that you weren't sure he could handle the duties of the presidency |
| 1:41.4 | we should be worried about that uh Here we are, nine months in, |
| 1:46.2 | were your fears justified? Well, I think they are justified. One of the taglines I used to use |
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