The men trying to do friendship, better – podcast
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The Guardian
4.6 • 5.9K Ratings
🗓️ 27 February 2026
⏱️ 27 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | This is The Guardian. |
| 0:06.8 | Today, the men trying to do friendship better. |
| 0:16.9 | I am in my mid-30s, 37 actually. |
| 0:20.9 | And my friendship group historically has been booze, banter, football, taking the mick out of each other. |
| 0:27.2 | This is Josh Halliday. |
| 0:28.6 | If you're a regular listener, you'll know his voice. |
| 0:31.4 | He's the Guardian's North of England editor. |
| 0:33.7 | But today, we're not talking about anything relating to his job. |
| 0:36.6 | Until very recently, I think the last year or two, |
| 0:39.1 | my relationship with my two closest friends, |
| 0:41.3 | who I've been friends with now for the 15, 16 years, |
| 0:44.7 | has been fairly surface level, to be honest. |
| 0:47.8 | 90% of our chat is probably football-related, |
| 0:50.8 | always with a drink in our hand. |
| 0:52.7 | If you ask me, name their immediate family, I wouldn't be able to do it. |
| 0:56.9 | And I think that's quite shocking, really. |
| 0:59.4 | As well as his two best friends, Josh has a big group of ladmates who tend to meet up once a year for a big booze-up. |
| 1:06.2 | And this means, you know, flying out to a city or getting the train somewhere, drinking or weekend. |
| 1:11.8 | Over time, he began to realise they all followed the same pattern. |
| 1:15.7 | Pints, banter, more pints, shots. |
| 1:19.2 | And then, tears. |
| 1:21.1 | I sort of realised that towards the end of the night, |
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