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The Remnant with Jonah Goldberg

The Men of the 20th Century Lost the Plot | Interview: Andrew Lambert

The Remnant with Jonah Goldberg

The Dispatch

Politics, News

4.6 • 6.3K Ratings

🗓️ 13 November 2025

⏱️ 77 minutes

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Summary

Jonah Goldberg invites the greatest naval historian of our time, Andrew Lambert, aboard the H.M.S. Remnant (The Dispatch's flagship podcast) to sit on deck and discuss the Royal Navy. Lambert treats Jonah to a whirlwind tour, encompassing 19th-century British grand strategy, the liberal tendencies of sea powers, and the lessons British naval history holds for America today. Shownotes:—No More Napoleons: How Britain Managed Europe from Waterloo to World War One—The British Way of War: Julian Corbett and the Battle for a National Strategy—Seapower States: Maritime Culture, Continental Empires and the Conflict That Made the Modern World We’re running a listener survey, which you can find at thedispatch.typeform.com/podcast.  The Remnant is a production of ⁠The Dispatch⁠, a digital media company covering politics, policy, and culture from a non-partisan, conservative perspective. To access all of The Dispatch’s offerings—including access to all of Jonah’s G-File newsletters—⁠click here⁠. If you’d like to remove all ads from your podcast experience, consider becoming a premium Dispatch member ⁠by clicking here⁠. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Have you ever wondered what a sandwich sounds like?

0:03.0

Not much to it is there?

0:06.0

Unless of course it's a Walker's sandwich.

0:10.0

Mmm, that is good.

0:13.0

Now that's what Asani should sound like.

0:16.0

Go all crisp in with walkers.

0:18.0

Delicious.

0:20.0

Delicious. with walkers delicious ladies ladies can I please can I please have your attention?

0:38.3

Can you diggers?

0:41.3

Please, dear listeners, this is Jonah Goldberg, host the Remnant podcast.

0:50.3

Brought to you by the Dispatch and Dispatch Media.

0:53.3

Deeply excited, honored,

0:56.0

thrilled to have today's guest. He is, by some lights, I'm not the best equipped to judge this,

1:03.3

but some of the people I trust who are equipped to judge this, say he's in contention to be one

1:09.6

of the best, the greatest living naval historian, at least in the English language.

1:14.5

He's written more books than I have time to read and still have a chance for a conversation with him.

1:19.8

But his most recent one, which I've been wanting to get him on here for a while about, is no more

1:24.7

Napoleons, how Britain managed Europe from Waterloo to World War I.

1:30.3

We'll put a full list of his bibliography. He's a professor at King's College, London, in the

1:37.1

Department of War Studies. He's the Lawton Professor of Naval History there. Andrew Lambert,

1:41.4

welcome to the remnant. It's a great pleasure to be with you, Jenna.

1:44.6

Okay, as listeners know, and as I prepped you, my first question out of the box, what's your

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