In this episode, Larry and Dad Edge coach Marc sit down to unpack one of the most common traps business owner dads fall into — hoping things will get better instead of building a strategy to make them better. Featuring recorded clips from Jaden, a real estate investor and five-year member of the Dad Edge Business Boardroom, this episode is a real, unfiltered look at what it actually feels like to be a high-performing business owner who has it dialed at work but is guessing at home.

Jaden's story is one a lot of men will recognize — stressed, stretched, showing up for everything but not really present for anyone, and telling himself tomorrow would somehow be different without any real plan to make that true. Hope is not a strategy. And that one sentence — dropped by Larry's toughest sales mentor years ago — becomes the through-line for the whole episode.

Marc and Larry break down why business owners specifically are so underserved when it comes to marriage and fatherhood, why the men around you shape who you become whether you're intentional about it or not, and what happens when you stop reacting and start running a new operating system. Not just in your family — in everything.

If you're a business owner who's winning at work and guessing at home, this one was made for you.

 

Timeline Summary

[0:00] Introduction to the Dad Edge mission and the movement to raise leaders of families and communities

[1:02] What happens when we try our best but don't have the skills — and why winging it in marriage and fatherhood is a recipe for quiet misery

[2:33] Why business owner dads are among the most underserved men out there

[3:33] Starting a business is like having another kid — and most men are carrying both without the right support

[5:45] Jaden's story: five-year Boardroom member, real estate investor, and a man who was just hoping tomorrow would be different

[7:21] Hope is not a strategy — why hope without a plan turns against you over time

[8:31] Marc's experience as a police officer and Larry's in sales — guessing in the early days and what changed when they found the right room

[11:19] Hope is not a strategy — the mentor who stopped Larry cold and changed how he approached everything

[13:58] What Jaden started learning inside the Boardroom — generative questions and the skill of processing in real time

[15:04] Walking the cube: facts, story, emotions, action — and how it replaces emotional dumping with intentional response

[16:39] It becomes your operating system — not a skill you have to work at, but how you fundamentally operate

[18:18] These skills don't just change your family — they change your business too because you take your head everywhere

[19:29] The tools that become part of your identity: emotional validation, generative questions, psychological safety, walking the cube

[20:11] The software upgrade analogy — your marriage won't run optimally on an outdated operating system

[21:39] Jaden's advice for men on the outside: you cannot do this work alone. It's a 12-foot ladder with only two rungs.

[23:00] Larry asks Jaden where he'd be without the Boardroom — and the pause that said everything

[24:21] Mark's insight: surround yourself with people who already have what you want — that's the cheat code

[25:42] What Larry thought when he joined his first mastermind in 2015 — and why he called back 11 minutes later

[28:27] What Larry found on that first Monday morning call — every question he was afraid to ask was suddenly welcomed

[30:07] The call to action for every business owner dad listening right now

 

Five Key Takeaways

1. Hope is not a strategy. Hoping your marriage or your relationship with your kids gets better without a plan is not optimism — it's guessing. And guessing sucks.
2. You take your head everywhere. The skills you build at home show up in your business, and the chaos you carry from work shows up at home. Upgrading your operating system changes everything.
3. The men around you shape who you become — whether you're intentional about it or not. Surround yourself with men who already have what you want, and you'll take on their habits, beliefs, and results.
4. These skills don't take more time — they eliminate the time you waste reacting, apologizing, and cleaning up the mess of not having them.
5. You cannot do this work alone. A brotherhood that can name the next rung of the ladder for you is not a luxury — it's the difference between spinning in place and actually climbing.

 

Links & Resources

• Dad Edge Alliance & Business Boardroom: https://thedadedge.com/mastermind
• The Men's Forge: https://themensforge.com
• Episode Link & Resources (Episode 1465): https://thedadedge.com/1465

 

Closing

If there's one message from this episode that stands out, it's this: stop hoping and start building.

Every man listening to this has the same 24 hours. The difference between the man who looks up in ten years with the life he wanted and the man who wonders where it all went is not talent, not luck, and not harder work. It's strategy. It's skills. It's the room he chose to be in.

If you're a business owner who's winning at work and guessing at home — this is your move.

Go out and live legendary.