Hello and welcome to In The Lymlight, Vanity Fares Entertainment and Pop Culture Podcast.

I'm Josh Duboff, Vanity Fair Senior writer, and I'm here with Julie Miller, Vanity Fair Senior Hollywood writer.

On In The Lymolite, we analyze the ends and outs of pop culture, entertainment, and celebrity from the past week, from the Kardashians to Kate Middleton and everything in between.

A lot to get into this week. It seems like every week is jam-packed this past month or so. The Kate Meg feud has only grown more intense, or the purported feud has only grown more intense in its media coverage and the surrounding kind of, I don't know, avalanche of stories, which we'll get into this week in the palace denial, which was a very rare occurrence, which we'll get into this week, in the palace denial, which was a very rare occurrence,

which we'll talk about. Also, a Megan story that relates to, of all things, air fresheners,

which we'll have to discuss. I mean, what a tease. I can't wait. Also, Carol Middleton gave

her first interview and posed for some kind of incredible portraits, So I'm really excited to get Josh's take on that.

Her first interview ever, which I found crazy, kind of.

I know. I know. But first, let's get into this Kate, Megan. Do we call it a few, Josh?

Yeah, that's why I wanted to like stick that purported in there.

We really don't know.

I feel like it's pretty unclear what's going on, but it's gotten kind of wild.

I guess we can say with certainty it's really raining reports about a rivalry.

Yes.

I feel like the emphasis is on the Kate Megan reporting of the, like the reporting of the feud

more than if we know there's actually a feud, if that makes sense.

So the son ran a report this weekend that Megan, quote, spoke rudely, unquote, to a member,

to a member of Kate's staff.

And Kate had to tell Megan, quote, not to berate members of her team, unquote.

I'm really doing the dramatic quote, unquote, for a story that necessitates them, I think.

According to the Sun, an impeccable royal source revealed that this latest clash happened before Megan and Harry's royal wedding in May. Kate is said to have told the former suits actress, quote, that's unacceptable,

they're my staff and I speak to them. And according to the Sun report, this is what led to her and

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