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Welcome to the waves for Thursday, December 27th, the mediocre Missed Maisel edition.

I'm Hannah Rosen, a host of NPR's Invisibilia.

In our New York studios, we have June Thomas, senior managing producer of the Slate Podcast Network.

Hi, June.

Hello, Hannah.

And Noreen Malone of New York Magazine. Hi, Noreen. Hi, Hannah. We should say Merry Christmas. No, I shouldn't say Merry Christmas because I'm Jewish, but you guys can say Merry Christmas to all of our listeners, even though we're recording a little bit before Christmas, but this will air after Christmas, so Merry Christmas, everyone. Happy holidays to everyone. Sorry, we don't say that anymore. Happy holidays. What is what is the, what is the neutral thing to say? Here's the thing what I do. I make a, I ask, I have a series of 20 questions that I ask everyone so that I can ascertain the exact religious profile that I should. And then I've got to, it's like a whole, it's like a whole protocol. I ask 17 questions and then I have 25 responses that might be, you know, be appropriate. So, yeah. And it also. You sound like you're fun, guess. How about... So there should be one like, what's your preferred pronoun? Like, what's your preferred holiday greeting? Can we just do it fast like that? Here's the thing, though, as with preferred pronouns, like, we don't ask everybody that, you know? So it was like, we're going to look at someone and think, you look a bit Islamic. I'm going to ask you, hey, so what's your preferred holiday greeting?

It's a landmine. Did I ever tell you this terrible story of my friend who was walking

through the mall and the Santa Claus was there and the Santa Claus was like, Merry Christmas,

Merry Christmas, everyone. And then she passed by and he was like, and happy Hanukkah to you. And she was like, fuck you. What? I have a big note. Like, what is that? What is that? What is that? What is that? What is that about? Like, I could be Italian.

Can be Italian. So I guess, yeah.

Yeah. It's a minefield is what it is. It's just a minefield. Hey, but happy New Year, yeah. Yeah. It's a minefield, is what it is.

It's just a minefield.

Hey, but happy new year, everyone. Right. That's what I do is happy new year. I start doing that in like mid-December. Although, you know, Russia Shana is some time ago. No, okay. I'm going to leave this now. No, no, let's drop it. Okay. All right. Let's go on to do a very holiday-ish topics like Penn House. Penhouse. We're talking about Penn House because I'm sure you're sick of talking to your family is about Anodyne Nothing. So we bring you some Penn House. This week is Pan House magazine becoming an outlet for the alt-right. I'm excited to talk about that. The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel, an Amazon show in its

particular feminism. I hope you guys have been watching it over the holidays. And then we're going to do a

roundup of our favorite, least favorite moments in this insane year in feminism. And then in our

Slate Plus segment, which I'm excited about, June, you want to say what we're talking about?

I do. We are going to ask if it is sexist that Offset ambushed Cardi B's life performance recently to ask her to take him back. Did I say that with Great Natural Lists as if I'm super familiar with Offset and Cardi B's life moments? Yeah, you sound like you're on the breakfast club. You're ready. Oh, my God. I'm so ready. Ready for drive time. All right, cool. Well, you saw it live, right, June? Oh, sure. Yeah, absolutely. I was live streaming it, actually. Yeah. So, let's move on to our topics. We will start with Penhouse. Penhouse under the banner of free thought. porn magazines. Is that what you call them? Skin magazine? What I didn't, I couldn't find a

2018 name because it seems weird that they even exist. What's the right name for them?

Nudy mags. I think they're porn, aren't they? I mean, what, what? But the magazine part. Anyway,

okay, porn magazines. Um, have always, porn magazines. Adult magazines?

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