The Meaning of Madison’s Flute: Who Owns Music?

Now & Then

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News, Society & Culture, History, News Commentary

4.9 • 3.7K Ratings

🗓️ 12 October 2022

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Summary

What can American instruments teach us about democracy? What does the controversy over Lizzo’s playing of James Madison’s crystal flute tell us about racism, representation, and the roots of our current cultural moment? Heather and Joanne discuss the evolution of the banjo, the popularity of the steel drum, and the 1970s development of hip-hop and rap production. NOTE: Starting this week, Now & Then will be releasing new episodes on Wednesday mornings. Join CAFE Insider to listen to “Backstage,” where Heather and Joanne chat each week about the anecdotes and ideas that formed the episode. For a limited time, new members can get 40% off the annual membership price with special code MIDTERMS. Head to: cafe.com/history For more historical analysis of current events, sign up for the free weekly CAFE Brief newsletter, featuring Time Machine, a weekly article that dives into an historical event inspired by each episode of Now & Then: cafe.com/brief For references & supplemental materials, head to: cafe.com/now-and-then/the-meaning-of-madisons-flute-who-owns-music/ Now & Then is presented by CAFE and the Vox Media Podcast Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Support for today's show comes from Slack.
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0:10.3	Slack helps companies stay flexible, accelerate projects and keep teams aligned, so work just
0:16.4	works.
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0:32.9	where they're logging in from.
0:34.6	Get started at slack.com slash DHQ.
0:38.3	Slack, where the future works.
0:40.8	Hey folks, it's Heather.
0:46.6	We have an update.
0:47.9	We're going to be releasing new episodes of now and then on Wednesday mornings instead
0:51.8	of Tuesdays.
0:53.4	Keep an eye out for new now and then episodes now coming every Wednesday, wherever you
0:58.2	listen to podcasts.
1:02.8	From Cafe and the Vox Media Podcast Network, this is now and then.
1:10.3	I'm Heather Cox Richardson and I'm Joanne Freeman.
1:13.7	Today we're going to be talking about a topic that came to us as a result of something
1:20.7	that's sort of burst out partly on social media on September 28th and that was the response
1:28.8	to the pop and hip-hop superstar Lizzo playing a crystal flute that belonged to James Madison
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